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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (543266)	10/14/2013 4:59:14 PM
From: skinowski	Respond to of 793552

Agree. Once voters will realize the truth about the costs, it may backfire in a major way. But the left will spin it so hard that Karl Marx will be turning in his grave. Hopefully, the same thing won't happen with Lenin, because they keep his body visible to the public, and that may spook some people.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (543266)	10/14/2013 5:28:18 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 793552

Yep...my son's premium increased 85%.....and when he along with thousands of others in his age cohort don't sign up...it will only get worse....within 2-3 years the system will be shot....

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (543266)	10/14/2013 6:31:25 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793552

If I'm reading the signs correctly, the website as designed is unfixable, certainly in the short-term. Adding more servers so it can handle the load will only reveal other bugs. This site was not designed correctly with end-to-end transactions in mind -- the nature of the unhandled errors makes that clear. In database design, a transaction is a series of operations which must all be performed together, or completely rolled back on the failure of any one operation. If you screw up the error-handling, failure leaves you with garbage in the database. The fact that they took the unheard-of decision to delete user passwords last week and require people to register again tells me that their database is full of garbage. This speaks to structural problems with the design of the system. So, no, I don't think they can fix this system. If anybody has any sense, they are scrambling to assemble a Plan B system -- something far less ambitious that resembles ehealthinsurance.com in functionality.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (543266)	10/14/2013 6:58:21 PM
From: Brian Sullivan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793552

The political gain will come from the sticker shock coming from those who will not be heavily subsidized. This pain will extend to the election. Your AGI has to be greater than 4 times the Federal Poverty Level. That is around 100K for a family of 4 or 65K for a married couple. I suspect that the majority of people subject to the non-subsidized ACA rates are already Republican voters. The 47% crowd looks at this as there new birth right as handed to them by Obama and the Democrats. Plus apparently there is no income verification process you just have to state that your income is less than the threshold and you get the subsidy. Liar Loans redux.