To: GPS Info who wrote (42634 ) 10/21/2013 8:40:00 AM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300 "Yes, I am making a value judgement and I make them all the time" Of course. We judge for value every time we look at two cans of corn in the Safeway store. More importantly, we really really judge for value when we hire a carpenter or when we leave our kids alone with a sitter..."I don't judge Bob or Bill as being inherently good or evil." Nor do I. I think that irrational value judgements are the province of the irrepressibly dogmatic or those who have become too sexually stimulated."Since this is a voluntary job for both Bob and Bill, I would tell my boss that we should use both men and continue to evaluate both." Some people make decisions with too little fact. And some can never seem to make up their minds or trust their judgement, as it were. In the former, we sometimes find the rash and the reckless who find themselves on an ice floe in open water. In the latter we often find the tragic reality of lives not lived, of chances not taken, of opportunities missed, and of dreams that died still born."I really don't want to make some simple-minded judgment about a person using very limited information" You sound like Ayn Rand, who said that value judgements required the utmost care and diligence."so every rational person must maintain an equally strict and solemn integrity in the courtroom within his own mind , where the responsibility is more awesome than in a public tribunal, because he, the judge, is the only one to know when he has been impeached.""How would I properly judge this without sufficient time?" You do not judge a sitter by what he or she 'may' become in the course of time and teaching. You assess her by her character and her trustworthiness as she is today; today, when you leave whom you love the most in her control and care--as you close the door behind you."I would ask the kids for an evaluation of both Bob and Bill..." Other than this, you did list a number of other (more objective) criteria for evaluation. I must say, however, that ever since the courts decided that children were too uninformed and too unlikely to possess sufficient or adequate judgement as to be morally or legally accountable for contracts they might sign...that I have tended to rely less on their advice and judgement--especially when their own safety and welfare is at stake. "How much to you trust your poker hand?" Trust is reliance on outcome--both on what will or what won't happen. I prefer (of course) to have 100% certainty of a winning hand. This is not always possible, in which case it becomes a question of probabilities--what we call "pot odds". There is never a need for an irrational judgement in poker--although we all make them when we take events personally and when we start trying to "beat" other players (who perhaps did nothing more insulting than forgetting to hide their glee at your misfortune in a bad beat!) ;-)