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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (749046)10/24/2013 12:20:00 AM
From: i-node1 Recommendation

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Brumar89

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>> The delay in the mandate is not meant to get those people back onto insurance. It's meant to make sure those people don't have to pay anymore than they already do for the failures of the ObamaCare launch.

I wish the problems were just in the website, but this is starting to look like even more of a nightmare than I ever thought it would be because of the pricing of the plans. They are NOT going to have the young health people signing up that are required to make these exchanges work. I would bet a lot of money on that. And without them, it seems to me the entire thing just falls apart, leaving a lot of people without insurance at all.

At this point I think it is probable that more people will be uninsured a couple years from now than were two years ago, unless they can figure out how to salvage it.

I know it can't happen because pride and personalities get in the way, but the best thing right now would be for Obama and Reid to admit there is an insurmountable problem with the ACA and that they're prepared to sit down with Republicans and spend the next couple of years working out a mutually acceptable small-government solution that will allow people to get affordable health care, if not insurance.

This is going to be extremely painful for a lot of people.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (749046)10/24/2013 3:35:24 AM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573648
 
>The delay in the mandate is not meant to get those people back onto insurance. It's meant to make sure those people don't have to pay anymore than they already do for the failures of the ObamaCare launch.

>Democrats are calling for it because they're beginning to realize just how bad this looks for them come 2014. It might even make their constituents forget about the "Republican" shutdown of this year.

I just looked up what you're talking about... from Fox News, there are a few Democratic Senators, all the most conservative ones from the most conservative states -- Pryor, Manchin, Begich, Landrieu.... the only sort of exception is Jeanne Shaheen, but she's a conservative from a blueish state that has a reputation for libertarianism... these are all squishy Democrats who slide over the aisle when it's expedient. Hell, Manchin shot a Democratic cap-and-trade bill with a shotgun in an ad.

-Z



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (749046)10/24/2013 6:51:42 AM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation

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TideGlider

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I know, but in the meantime lots of people will have lost their insurance effective 12/31/13. Some of them will be able to get a replacement policy outside of the exchanges but its likely to cost them more, give them higher deductibles, etc. But on the bright side, they'll be covered for in vitro fertilization treatment and a bunch of stuff bureaucrats decided should be covered for reasons of fairness.