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To: Bill who wrote (749350)	10/25/2013 8:51:35 AM
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Figures. Obamacare’s Hispanic Website Features Asians – Not Hispanics thegatewaypundit.com White liberals can't tell them apart.

To: Bill who wrote (749350)

10/25/2013 9:51:27 AM

From: SilentZ

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Who knows if Republicans will get a win. Heck, they'll probably be blamed for it. The Dems play the blame game very well.

Well, conservatives clearly think in a totally opposite manner than liberals. I'm personally pretty sure that Obama has little more in mind than his current, originally-Heritage-Foundation-approved, plan. But I feel like if it succeeds with flying colors, future, hopefully more liberal administrations could potentially leverage it to get single payer. And if it fails, which it might, well, we're fucked.

A pretty well-known liberal blogger wrote a post along those lines a couple of days ago:

nomoremister.blogspot.com

Hey, I'd be delighted if the end result of all this were single-payer. But anyone who thinks that an irreversible Obamacare failure would lead to single-payer is smoking crack.

First of all, right-wingers will never acknowledge the failures of the marketplace, including the marketplace that would be left after an Obamacare failure. More important, right-wingers don't give a goddamn whether anyone except the 1% has heath insurance, as long as the uninsured don't take it out on them at the polls, and as long as corporations are fat and happy. Right-wingers would be perfectly happy to replace Obamacare with whatever washes up in its aftermath, if voters put up with that. Alternately, they would be happy to create a system in which insurance sales across state lines put all health insurance in one state with incredibly pro-business laws, the way so many credit cards originate in South Dakota, where the sky's the limit on interest rates charged. They would be happy to put such great restraints on malpractice suits that the deserving just gave up on seeking redress. They would be happy to watch the numbers of the insured steadily climb. They would, in short, be perfectly happy to turn America into one big Texas as far as health insurance goes.

All they'd need to do is persuade the voters that it's their fault if they're insured, or it's the fault of the poor sucking up all the Medicaid, or, well, it's because Obamacare screwed everything up permanently. Alas, I think voters , who've been abused by the economic and politic and health-care systems for years, would just sigh and go along with that.

So I suppose that's one good reason for the administration to get this right -- not because the alternative will be socialized medicine, but because it will probably be PerryCare.

"Anyone who thinks that an irreversible Obamacare failure would lead to single-payer is smoking crack."

Smoking crack. Well, if the shoe fits...

-Z