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To: koan who wrote (750077)	10/29/2013 6:18:11 AM
From: Bilow	7 Recommendations Recommended By Bill Brumar89 i-node PKRBKR Tenchusatsu and 2 more members Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574953

Hi koan; Re: "The pubs were wrong about the new deal and SS, medicare and you are wrong now." You're another simple idiot with only a rudimentary knowledge of history. The Social Security Act passed the House on April 19, 1935. The Republicans voted in favor of it by 81 to 15. The vote in the Senate was on June 19, 1935. The Republicans in the Senate voted in favor of Social Security by 16 to 5. Medicare is a part of the Social Security Amendments of 1965 which extended the original Social Security. The Republicans were split on the bill, in the Senate the Republicans voted against it by 13 to 17. But in the House they supported it by 70 to 68. Your belief that the Republicans were against Social Security is just another example of the way that liberals rewrite history to fit their preconceived notions. I've got Democrat friends who are convinced that the Republicans fought to preserve slavery. --------------------------------------------------------- By contrast, Obamacare passed with zero votes in favor by Republicans both in the House and the Senate. You're in a completely different ball game here. Your side completely politicized the issue. The Democrats used a sneaky maneuver to avoid the usual checks and balances present in Congress and they forced a vote on it before anyone had a chance to read it. This was magnificently stupid and the Democrats will pay dearly for it. Many of them already have. Add on to that the gun rights issue and the collapse of the global warming fiasco and swing voters are going to be moving towards the Republicans. Social Security started as a paycheck tax of 1% and applied to the first $3,000 of income so the maximum tax was $30 per year. This was at a time when most people didn't have retirement programs. Of course it was popular. If FDR had been as stupid as Obama, he would have introduced FICA as a 7% tax with a limit of the first $100,000. And the program would have resulted in massive economic dislocations. It would have been a disaster for the Democrats and the Republicans would have marched it back. Social Security began as a tiny tax. The maximum tax (paid only by people earning what was then very good money) was 8.2 cents per day. Obamacare, by contrast, was an immediate disaster. Millions of people are losing their jobs. Next year will be worse. Millions of people are losing their health care. This will peak over the next few months. And millions of people will find that their costs of healthcare have gone up considerably. Hell, if FDR had introduced Social Security the way it is now, the economic dislocations would have destroyed his party too. -- Carl P.S. In order to let you have the entertainment of believing that I'm lying to you, I'm not going to give you a link to any of the above figures. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

To: koan who wrote (750077)	10/29/2013 7:23:14 AM
From: jlallen	4 Recommendations Recommended By Bill Brumar89 FJB TideGlider Respond to of 1574953

Nonsense. Odumbocare is already a confirmed fail of epic proportion.

To: koan who wrote (750077)	10/29/2013 8:25:30 AM
From: average joe	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB TideGlider Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574953

And you know it... I know if the GOP screws up again and lets Elizabeth Warren get elected president the last vestiges of America will be dismantled. The Great Experiment is almost at an end.

To: koan who wrote (750077)	10/29/2013 8:57:56 AM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1574953

Koan and tejek are the only ones who think ObamanableCare is a great success.

To: koan who wrote (750077)	10/29/2013 12:10:04 PM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 TideGlider Respond to of 1574953

Making 50-60 year olds pay for maternity and pediactric insurance is not quality healthcare it's plain old socialism and is bound to fail

To: koan who wrote (750077)	10/29/2013 1:42:24 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574953

Koan, Obamacare is going to be a smashing success replacing junk health care with quality healthcare. Some people wanted "junk health care" because the premiums were lower and they didn't feel the need for anything more comprehensive. ObamaCare forced them off of that. Now they have to buy "quality health care" at much higher prices because the system needs them to be in the same pool as the high-risk (read high-cost) patients who require it. You're just repeating the same lies that Obama made in trying to sell ObamaCare to the general public. Tenchusatsu

To: koan who wrote (750077)

11/11/2017 8:47:33 AM

From: James Seagrove

Respond to of 1574953

Thanks for the chuckle, Koan...



Obamacare is going to be a smashing success replacing junk health care with quality healthcare. It will be a complicated and messy transition, but when it is done you will not get the people to let it go. And you know it. Good affordable health care for people with pre existing conditions which is most people over 50. Minimum services must be provided and kids get to stay on policies until 26. Medical companies cann only make a 20% profit. How much luck have you had with getting rid of social security or medicare? The pubs opposed both of those pretty much categorically. And the New deal and medicade. You guys seem to oppose anything people need. Hard to figure. Were you born without hearts? You need to go to OZ with the Tin man. The pubs were wrong about the new deal and SS, medicare and you are wrong now.