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To: KyrosL who wrote (236299)	10/31/2013 1:42:52 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 542958

I'm not against means testing, for insurance, SS, Medicare or any other social program. The wealthy should subsidize the poor, including the young poor. I think you'll find the main opponents to this concept are Republicans. They see the poor as deserving their economic status, as losers and takers. I have heard from many conservatives that Romney's 47% comment was correct, but ill advised, best spoken in quiet, unrecorded ballrooms.. SS is already somewhat means tested, as your benefit is reduced proportionately with your income, but only from wages. This should be expanded to all income, since the truly wealthy structure their income to be from capital gains to avoid income tax. I'd like to see all income taxed the same. I'd have no problem with the same idea being applied to other social programs.

To: KyrosL who wrote (236299)	10/31/2013 1:51:08 PM
From: Metacomet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542958

You can't construct the pools like that ..nor should they be viewed as such You either define a population for which the costs and benefits are shared by all members or you do not If the population of the United States is to covered by a system of health insurance in which everyone is allowed to participate, everyone has to be included It is how the costs are made affordable to all As soon as you skew the pools allowing people either less apt to need services or more apt to need services, you have lost the concept of mutuality

To: KyrosL who wrote (236299)	11/1/2013 11:01:28 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542958

The skewing of rates of young supporting old may actually work out in the long run as this is the achilles heal of the AFCA IMHO as I don't think enough young will sign up to make it work (we will see on that). But in the long run the collapse of the AFCA due to this (the rates become unworkable if the young don't sign up) could drive us into a single payer system as all the winners under Obama care howl as they again lose access to affordable health insurance when the rates rise.