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To: koan who wrote (750968)	11/2/2013 7:18:53 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577562

The Texas Republican party had a platform position last year that would have prevented the teaching of: "higher order thinking" now how is that even possible in 2013??

To: koan who wrote (750968)	11/2/2013 7:21:51 PM
From: Brumar89	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB longnshort Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577562

The church forbid thinking for centuries. Actually the church preserved the best of classic civilization, rejecting mostly things like infanticide and the bloody gladiatorial games where people fought to the death for the entertainment of the mob.

To: koan who wrote (750968)	11/2/2013 8:02:42 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Recommended By FJB Respond to of 1577562

" The church forbid thinking for centuries." read a history book

To: koan who wrote (750968)	11/2/2013 8:12:07 PM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 FJB Respond to of 1577562

the church started universities, I thought you liked universities University of Bologna, Bologna, Italy, founded in 1088 University of Paris, Paris, France, founded c. 1150 (now split between several autonomous universities) * University of Oxford, Oxford, England, founded before 1167 * University of Cambridge, Cambridge, England, founded c. 1209 * University of Salamanca, Salamanca, Spain, founded in 1218 * University of Montpellier, Montpellier, France, founded in 1220 * University of Padua, Padua, Italy, founded in 1222 * University of Naples Federico II, Naples, Italy, founded in 1224 * University of Toulouse, Toulouse, France, founded in 1229 * University of Siena, Siena, Italy, founded in 1240 * University of Coimbra, Coimbra, Portugal, founded in 1290 in Lisbon * Universidad Complutense de Madrid, Madrid, Spain, founded in 1293 in Alcalá de Henares * University of Lleida, Lleida, Spain, founded in 1300 * University of Rome La Sapienza, Rome, Italy, founded in 1303 * University of Pisa, Pisa, Italy, founded in 1343 * Charles University of Prague, Prague, Czech Republic, founded in 1348 * University of Pavia, Pavia, Italy, founded in 1361 * Jagiellonian University, Kraków, Poland, founded in 1364 * University of Vienna, Vienna, Austria, founded in 1365 * University of Pécs, Pécs, Hungary, founded in 1367 * Ruprecht Karls University of Heidelberg, Heidelberg, Germany, founded in 1386 * University of Ferrara, Ferrara, Italy, founded in 1391 * University of Würzburg, Würzburg, Germany, founded in 1402 * University of Leipzig, Leipzig, Germany, founded in 1409 * University of St. Andrews, St. Andrews, Scotland, founded in 1412 * University of Rostock, Rostock, Germany, founded in 1419 * Catholic University of Leuven, Leuven, Belgium, founded in 1425, * University of Poitiers, Poitiers, France, founded in 1431 * University of Glasgow, Glasgow, Scotland, founded in 1451 * University of Istanbul, Istanbul, Turkey, founded in 1453 * Ernst Moritz Arndt University of Greifswald, Greifswald, Germany, founded in 1456 * Albert Ludwigs University of Freiburg, Freiburg, Germany, founded in 1457 * Basel University, Basel, Switzerland, founded in 1460 * Uppsala University, Uppsala, Sweden, founded in 1477 * Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen, Tübingen, Germany, founded in 1477 * University of Copenhagen, Copenhagen, Denmark, founded in 1479 * University of Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland, founded in 1494 * University of Santiago de Compostela, Galicia, Spain, founded in 1495

To: koan who wrote (750968)	11/2/2013 8:31:17 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1577562

While progress in Science was slow during this period in the West, the progress was steady and of a very high quality. The foundation was laid here for the wonderful blossoming of science that was to occur in the High Middle Ages to come. It can be safely said, that without the study of Science in the Early Middle Ages, we would be considerably behind in our scientific knowledge today. Ronald Numbers (professor at Cambridge University) has said: ‘Notions such as: “the rise of Christianity killed off ancient science”, “the medieval Christian Church suppressed the growth of the natural sciences”, “the medieval Christians thought that the world was flat”, and “the Church prohibited autopsies and dissections during the Middle Ages” [are] examples of widely popular myths that still pass as historical truth, even though they are not supported by historical research.’ [Source: Video or audio Lecture]

To: koan who wrote (750968)	11/3/2013 12:26:36 AM
From: Bilow	2 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 TideGlider Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577562

Hi koan; It's like you know nothing at all about history. Re: "The barbarians destroyed the ancient Greeks march toward civilization and it took nearly 2,000 years to get back to where they were. Had they not been destroyed we would be a 1,000 years ahead of whre we are today, IMO." The Greek democracies were not destroyed by barbarians. You have it reversed. Alexander the Great (a Greek) used the Greek technology of warfare (which the US military calls modern warfare or "the Western way of war" where one fights with the objective of conclusively annihilating the enemy rather than just winning a battle) to conquer the known world. Alexander destroyed the Persians, the Egyptians and the Indians and replaced them with military dictatorships. And far more Greeks died under Alexanders' rule than died due to the earlier invasions of Greece by the Persians. The Greeks destroyed their own civilization. They were eventually conquered by Rome which used, naturally, the way of war invented by the Greeks. You might find the US military websites that talk about this of interest: privatelee.com -- Carl P.S. And who do you think taught Alexander the Great? It was Aristotle who taught him and Aristotle is again in the line of Socrates and Plato. These were not liberal educators. They were right-wing conservatives and the pupil they educated (like the ones that tried to destroy democracy at Athens) was anti-democratic.