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To: Metacomet who wrote (236701)11/4/2013 8:50:08 AM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543151
 
Of course, these millions don't really deserve health insurance, but never mind that, lol. We should be focusing on the people who have had their insurance canceled.

[sarcasm alert]


Millions eligible for free health-insurance policies under Obamacare
Zero-premium plans might not fit needs of many uninsured
By Reed Abelson and Katie Thomas


THE NEW YORK TIMES Monday November 4, 2013 7:03 AM

dispatch.com
Mark and Elisabeth Horst of Albuquerque, N.M. are artists who qualified for enough monthly subsidies to sign up for a bronze health-care plan free.

Millions of people could qualify for federal subsidies that will pay the entire monthly cost of some health-care plans being offered in the online marketplaces set up under President Barack Obama’s health-care law, a surprising figure that has not gotten much attention, in part because the zero-premium plans come with serious trade-offs.

Three independent estimates by Wall Street analysts and a consulting firm say that as many as 7 million people could qualify for the plans, but federal officials and insurers are reluctant to push them too hard because they are concerned about encouraging people to sign up for something that ultimately might not fit their needs.

The bulk of these plans are bronze policies, the least-expensive available. They require people to pay the most in out-of-pocket costs for doctor visits and other benefits such as hospital stays.

Supporters of the Affordable Care Act say that the availability of free-premium plans — as well as inexpensive policies that cover more — shows that it is achieving its goal of making health insurance widely available. A large number of those who qualify have incomes that fall just above the threshold for Medicaid, the government program for the poor, according to analysis by the consulting firm McKinsey and Co.

The latest analysis was conducted by McKinsey’s Center for U.S. Health System Reform, whose independent research has been cited by the federal government and others.

“The whole point of the law was not only to cover the uninsured, but so people didn’t have to make choices between food or drugs, or going to the doctor or dentist,” said Karen Davis, a health-policy expert at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. “It’s what it is designed to do.”

Many insurers tried to price their least-expensive plans so they would become free or nearly free with the addition of subsidies that are set based on a person’s income and the cost of a midlevel, or silver, plan.

The analysis found that from 5 million to 6 million people who are uninsured will qualify for subsidies that will be greater than the cost of the cheapest bronze or silver plan. An additional 1 million with individual insurance also could be eligible, according to McKinsey, although estimates of the size of the market for private individual insurance vary widely. None of the people in the analysis qualifies for Medicaid.

The availability of zero-premium plans might make the deal especially enticing to the healthy young people that the marketplace needs to succeed, said Mark V. Pauly, a professor of health-care management at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School.

“This is such a good deal that you’d have to believe you were immortal not to really pick it up,” he said.

Although they vary in their design, bronze plans generally cover about 60 percent of a person’s medical costs. All plans, including bronze, must cover standard benefits such as prescription drugs, maternity care and mental-health treatment.

The availability of the zero-premium plans varies across the country. McKinsey found that about 40 percent of the uninsured in Missouri will be able to select a no-cost bronze plan, for example, compared with 2 percent of the uninsured in New Jersey.

For many people, paying slightly more for a silver plan might be a much-better option, experts said. Ninety percent of those who will have the option of buying the no-cost plans make less than 250 percent of the federal poverty level — or $28,725 for an individual, and $58,875 for a family of four. People earning below those thresholds are eligible for the most-generous assistance, but only if they choose a silver plan.

About 1 million of those who will qualify for free coverage will be able to buy a silver plan for no monthly cost. McKinsey, which is releasing a report about the new insurance marketplaces, estimates that the cost of silver plans for the people who qualify for a zero-premium bronze plan will range from $40 to $50 per month.

All plans, including bronze policies, limit annual out-of-pocket costs to $6,350 for individuals and $12,700 for families.

For Mark and Elisabeth Horst, both artists in Albuquerque, N.M., the risks of signing up for a bronze plan were outweighed by the prospect of getting it free. The Horsts, who make $24,000 a year between them, qualified for $612 in monthly subsidies, but the cost of a bronze plan was $581 per month.

“We’re in good health,” Mr. Horst said.

Besides, he said, they can always switch to a better plan next year. “At this point, it’s a little bit of a gamble.”




To: Metacomet who wrote (236701)11/4/2013 9:04:03 AM
From: Sun Tzu  Respond to of 543151
 
>> ..for enough cash, you can convince a substantial portion of our population to jump off a cliff

Not only this is a defeatist attitude, I don't think it is as simple as that. You can't just simply market crap to the public over a long term. If you want to change the system, you need to understand exactly how it works and where its strengths and weaknesses are.

>> Since our political system has been allowed to permit unlimited cash to enter the discussion...

This is my single biff with Obama. He has done zip for campaign finance reform.

I believe the corporations should pay zero taxes and in exchange have zero say in the political process. That will be the single biggest force for change.

ST



To: Metacomet who wrote (236701)11/4/2013 12:19:46 PM
From: koan  Respond to of 543151
 
Great post, as are all of yours. You have a unique ability to articulate the truth. You should have been a writer.

No one organizes their thoughts better than you.

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America has the greatest marketing skills in the world

..for enough cash, you can convince a substantial portion of our population to jump off a cliff

..which in a figurative sense is happening every day

Can you imagine the lunacy of a clone of the Gordon Gekko character from the movie Wall Street, (Greed is good...) being elected president

...and it really wasn't that far from happening

Since our political system has been allowed to permit unlimited cash to enter the discussion, as speech, it speaks for greed and wealth transfer to the few

It does this by hiring those marketing skills