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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (89226)	11/5/2013 2:54:34 PM
From: John	2 Recommendations Recommended By GROUND ZERO™ slowmo Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

It's beyond all reason and sanity, GZ. Obama is simply a liar. Everything that the ba$tard says is a lie. Obama denies ‘you can keep it’ videotaped promises excerpt: President Barack Obama told his enthusiastic supporters Monday night that he never promised what video recordings show him promising at least 29 times. The videos show Obama promising 300 million Americans that “if you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan, period.” But that’s not what he really said, Obama announced Monday in a speech to about 200 Organizing for Action supporters, gathered at the St. Regis hotel in D.C. “What we said was you could keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law was passed,” he told Obamacare’s political beneficiaries and contractors. That claim is not supported by his videotaped statements, which don’t include any mention of his new “if it hasn’t changed” exception. But the newly-revealed exception is justified by a higher-priority promise in Obamacare, Obama declared. “If we had allowed these old plans [to continue]… then we would have broken an even more important promise — making sure that Americans gain access to health care that doesn’t leave them one illness away from financial ruin,” he announced. “So the bottom line is, is that we are making the insurance market better for everybody,” he declared, prompting loud applause by supporters eager to ignore his three years of fraudulent statements. Obama’s higher promise is now causing the cancelation of insurance policies chosen by at least 3.5 million Americans. The cancellations are spreading from the individual market to the small-group market. For example, Kentucky’s Department of Insurance has reported that 150,000 people in small-group plans — typically created for employees of small companies — are losing their insurance. Obama urged his supporters to counter the political effect of the many cancellations by highlighting good-news stories, and by reassuring people who have lost their insurance that they can buy new Obamacare-compliant policies. “I realize that can be scary for people if they just get some [cancellation] notice like that… we’ve got to make sure that we’re getting them the right information,” he said. But he also tried to downplay the Obamacare-caused cancellations, which are creating a wave of bad publicity that is hammering his poll ratings and his political clout. “People are acting like this is some new phenomenon… every year there was churn in this individual market” before the law was passed, he complained. But Americans’ complaints are subordinate to his political goals, he suggested. “We decided we need to build something better, no matter how hard it is,” he declared. Under that better progressive-managed system, some people’s health-care costs are going to jump, but it will be good for them, Obama said. “Some Americans with higher incomes will pay more on the front end for better insurance with better benefits and better protections that could eventually help them a lot, even if right now they’d rather be paying less,” he announced. Obama’s deceptive statements were deliberate and were intended to bolster Obama’s ability to get Obamacare passed in 2010 and him reelected in 2012, according to aides cited in a Wall Street Journal article Saturday. “Simplification and ease of explanation were a premium, and that was true throughout the process,” Jon Favreau, who was Obama’s senior speech writer, told the journal’s writers. Despite Obama’s new claims to his supporters, his “if it hasn’t changed” exception is not recorded in even one of his many videotaped “you can keep it” promises to Americans. “We will keep this promise to the American people… if you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan, period,” Obama said June 23, 2009. “If you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you. It hasn’t happened yet. It won’t happen in the future,” Obama told voters on April Fool’s Day, 2010, after the law was signed. He repeated the unqualified promise in the run-up to the 2012 election. “If you’ve got health insurance…. you keep your own insurance, you keep your own doctor,” he declared in one of the three presidential debates. However, Obama didn’t spend all of his Nov. 4 speech denying the videotapes. He did confess that he and his aides may have made some mistakes, such as failing to manage the development of the Obamacare website. “We got [Obamacare] done. Now, let’s face it, a lot of us didn’t realize that passing the law was the easy part.”

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (89226)	11/5/2013 9:27:04 PM
From: Wayners	4 Recommendations Recommended By GROUND ZERO™ Honey_Bee John R2O Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

Ovomitcare is inferior because you cannot have a TAILORED plan. You have to pay for a bunch of larded up junk, your word, from Obama's company store where he siphons large portions of your Ovomitcare premiums to his corporatist and fascist pals! What single man needs mammograms and maternity care? If you don't buy it, you get cancelled. You get 4 choices under Ovomitcare. Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum. That's it. It reminds me of the Soviet Stores where you get that or fewer choices for goods and services. Before Ovomitcare, you literally had an infinite number of choices, in order to TAILOR a plan that's right for YOU. Ovomit said, it's all too confusing. No it's not. Each person KNOWS what they NEED and if they need help, advisors are available. Also notice the Marxist aspect of all of this. Only the plans of individuals (who collectivists hate) and SMALL businesses (the Bourgeoise) get cancelled. Not BIG businesses and corporations. They get EXEMPTIONS. The ruling class gets EXEMPTIONS. See how Marxism works? The Bourgeouise entrepreneurs, small businesses and independent professionals get the shaft. Why? Because they are a REAL political threat to the ruling elite classes because they ARE MORE INTELLIGENT and HARDER WORKING.