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To: donald sew who wrote (30761)12/9/1997 8:41:00 PM
From: MonsieurGonzo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 58727
 
Donald; RE" 'sticks stuff..."

Sorry if I corrected you...

...for goodness sake, Donald - let's not worry about working together {grin} I am grateful for all the help I am given, especially from more experienced traders, such as yourself.

I'm using this chart generator (for index candlesticks)...

quote.com

CEX.X,D

>I mentioned "MIDDLE DOJI", but technically its called a
"SPINNING TOP DOJI" where the close and the open were the
same or very close and the the upper and lower shadows are
about equal in length.


I don't see the Spinning Top on Monday, Donald - it looks like a Shooting Star, albeit a near-Doji, which would be really bearish in the context of following a long, white candlestick on Friday, and a new high. There is little or no lower shadow on Monday's candlestick, Donald - can't be neutral; From open, the index rallied, then collapsed, to close slightly below open. When I see this kind of candlestick, I think, "little reversal likely to occur next". Although I am a stickler for trend lines and support levels, I consider Candlesticks to be intuitive; as Esteban put it into words so well the other day, "mass psychology in pictures".

>...a shooting star requires a gap.

Please Ref: Nison, Japanese Candlestick Charting Techniques, page 70...

...the shooting star has a small real body at the lower end of its range with a long upper shadow. The shooting star pictorially tells us that the market [CEX.X] opened near its low, then strongly rallied and finally backed off to close near the opening. In other words, the session's rally could not be sustained. An ideal shooting star has a real body which gaps away from the prior real body. Nonetheless, as will be seen in several chart examples, this gap is not always necessary.

>...a BEARISH ENGULFING pattern is normally with a good sized
"WHITE DAY" followed by a larger "BLACK DAY" where the the white
days highs and lows are within the the black day's highs and lows.


Well, yeah - strictly speaking we think of "engulfing" the previous session by "piercing" the mid-point of the previous day's session. One of the things I have learned about candlesticks, FWIW Donald, is to visualize what kind of candlestick one would have as a result of summing sessions together (for example, the sum of 5 daily sessions is equal to one weekly candlestick). Because candlesticks are indicators of sentiment rather than the extent of price changes, what I do (in my mind) is sum together the candlesticks, of whatever time-slice, that comprise some prevaling period of "sentiment".

For example, summing together the two candlesticks of a "Bullish Engulfing Pattern" is how a "Hammer" is created. The Hammer could have been formed in one session, but if the sentiment to create a Hammer-Reversal persists over two sessions, it looks like a Bullish Engulfing Pattern instead. You get a heightened sense of the duration of bullish/bearish sentiments when you watch intra - day candlesticks, changing the time-slices from 13-minute to 39- or 90-minute candlesticks, summing the ebbs and flows of capital into something that resembles "sentiment events".

Wow man, one little cup of espress from the caf‚ downstairs, and I'm off into the ether :-) Come to Paris, Donald - we'll sit down at the Caf‚ Flore and have a grand time over a bottle of good red wine and little shots of Italian bean-juice!

-Steve



To: donald sew who wrote (30761)12/10/1997 9:27:00 AM
From: Esteban  Respond to of 58727
 
Donald,

Re:One last thing a BEARISH ENGULPHING pattern is normally with a good sized "WHITE DAY" followed by a larger "BLACK DAY" where the the white days highs and lows are within the the black day's highs and lows.

Just a note about the bearish engulfing candlestick pattern. To quote from Morris: "An uptrend is in place when a small white body day occurs with not much volume...."

Just wanted to point out that a good sized "white day" is not a requirement for this pattern. Otherwise most bearish engulfing patterns would be moot. You're right about the colors though, that part is a requirement.

I look forward to reading your Index Updates on a daily basis. Thanks for the posts.

Esteban