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To: Bilow who wrote (281048)11/9/2013 8:52:35 AM
From: Sun Tzu  Respond to of 281500
 
Ah, at last a chance for some rational discussion!

I agree. It is "irrational rage" from Holland's perspective but obviously not from the tea party's perspective or from the researchers' perspective. What the research seemed to say is not that there is "irrational rage" but that there are different lenses that each side views the events through.

For example, if your core value is freedom of choice, however personally averse or even disgusted you may find the idea of gay sex, you will find a way to let it be. If on the other hand homosexuality is a moral issue for you, perhaps due to religious beliefs, then there is no way that you can accept it.

Similarly, many liberals say there is too much waste, especially in military spending. So they don't see anything wrong with supporting programs that have moral appeal to them (e.g. healthcare), even if it involves government waste. Now it is not so much that conservatives excuse government waste in military (I know this from personal discussions), but that to them the support of military is a stronger moral value than their dislike of the waste. So from that perspective the behavior is very similar on both sides but involves different moral codes.

The real question is why are some people more outraged at government waste in military and others by the waste in social programs. That is what the research tried to answer.

Stop fighting the presentation and comment on the content (hint, Holland's crap is not content, it is to sell his article to his audience, since the research does not support the "conservatives are irrational evil doers" proposition).

ST



To: Bilow who wrote (281048)11/10/2013 5:00:31 AM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hi Carl,
BTW, if the poor people vote Democrats, then given the wealth disparity in the US, how come Dems are not always running the country?

And more generally, if the US has a functioning election system, how come congress has such horrible approval rating and yet 90% of them get reelected?

ST