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To: Alex MG who wrote (110020)11/12/2013 8:54:13 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
So why do you HATE Obamacare so much when the facts show it is actually helping many people?
Helping a few at the expense of trashing the majority is not a good thing.

And what is your answer to the Republican controlled states who are refusing the medicaid expansion?
They are doing it because of fiscal responsibility. It's simple. If medicaid is the way to go, then have Obama expand medicare for everyone. Oh yeah, the health insurance industry opposed that so he killed it along with single payer.

Purely out of spite, and at no cost to these states they are refusing health care for the poorest people who don't have it
That's a crock. the States will be on the hook for expanded medicaid and to the benefit of the insurance companies..

Not only is it a morally bankrupt position, but it is not cost effective in the long run, like telling people to go to an emergency room (Bush's plan for universal healthcare)

This is where your ranting that the Dems/liberals/progressives are just as bad as the extremist right wingers fails miserably

You just seem to hate ALL govt... you seem to have given up on believing our govt can do anything positive
I despise spineless Democrats that rant about right wing policies but clap enthusiastically when their own leaders push through the same law.

what a negative sad position



To: Alex MG who wrote (110020)11/12/2013 9:14:55 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 110194
 
apparently the "facts" aren't so clear to the Dem leadership.

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Dianne Feinstein joins push to keep health plans

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By SEUNG MIN KIM | 11/12/13 5:45 PM EST Updated: 11/12/13 7:04 PM EST

It’s not just red-state Democrats who want to take aggressive steps to mend controversial provisions in Obamacare.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Tuesday that she will co-sponsor a bill by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) to require insurance companies to continue offering their existing health care plans — a way to make good on President Barack Obama’s promise that consumers can keep their current coverage if they like it.

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“This bill provides a simple fix to a complex problem,” Feinstein said in a statement Tuesday, calling Landrieu’s proposal a “commonsense fix” and urged Congress to pass it “quickly.”

( Also on POLITICO: Durbin: ACA line needed clarification)

But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has no plans to bring Obamacare delay bills to the floor, and most Senate Democrats appear to be waiting until the end of the month — the date by which the administration has promised to fix the problematic health care website — to demand major delays to the law’s implementation.

Feinstein’s support is more evidence that an increasing number of congressional Democrats are getting uneasy about last month’s bungled rollout of the health care law – Obama’s signature domestic policy achievement.

In her statement, Feinstein said she has gotten 30,842 calls, e-mails and letters from her constituents on the issue. One man from Rancho Mirago, Calif., told Feinstein that he is being forced to spend more than $400 extra to pay for coverage through Obamacare that essentially mirrors his existing plan.

( Also on POLITICO: Steny Hoyer not taking sides on old health care policies)

“Too many Americans are struggling to make ends meet,” she said. “We must ensure that in our effort to reform the health care system, we do not allow unintended consequences to go unaddressed.”

Before Feinstein, Landrieu’s bill had three other co-sponsors, all Democrats hailing from more conservative territory: Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Kay Hagan of North Carolina and Mark Pryor of Arkansas.

The Republican-led House is voting on a bill that is similar to Landrieu’s plan this week, although it doesn’t explicitly require insurers to keep their existing plans. That vote is set for Friday.

Read more: politico.com



To: Alex MG who wrote (110020)11/12/2013 9:16:00 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 110194
 
apparently the "facts" aren't so clear to the Dem leadership.

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Dianne Feinstein joins push to keep health plans

By SEUNG MIN KIM | 11/12/13 5:45 PM EST Updated: 11/12/13 7:04 PM EST

It’s not just red-state Democrats who want to take aggressive steps to mend controversial provisions in Obamacare.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Tuesday that she will co-sponsor a bill by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) to require insurance companies to continue offering their existing health care plans — a way to make good on President Barack Obama’s promise that consumers can keep their current coverage if they like it.

“This bill provides a simple fix to a complex problem,” Feinstein said in a statement Tuesday, calling Landrieu’s proposal a “commonsense fix” and urged Congress to pass it “quickly.”

But Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has no plans to bring Obamacare delay bills to the floor, and most Senate Democrats appear to be waiting until the end of the month — the date by which the administration has promised to fix the problematic health care website — to demand major delays to the law’s implementation.

Feinstein’s support is more evidence that an increasing number of congressional Democrats are getting uneasy about last month’s bungled rollout of the health care law – Obama’s signature domestic policy achievement.

In her statement, Feinstein said she has gotten 30,842 calls, e-mails and letters from her constituents on the issue. One man from Rancho Mirago, Calif., told Feinstein that he is being forced to spend more than $400 extra to pay for coverage through Obamacare that essentially mirrors his existing plan.

“Too many Americans are struggling to make ends meet,” she said. “We must ensure that in our effort to reform the health care system, we do not allow unintended consequences to go unaddressed.”

Before Feinstein, Landrieu’s bill had three other co-sponsors, all Democrats hailing from more conservative territory: Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Kay Hagan of North Carolina and Mark Pryor of Arkansas.

The Republican-led House is voting on a bill that is similar to Landrieu’s plan this week, although it doesn’t explicitly require insurers to keep their existing plans. That vote is set for Friday.

Read more: politico.com