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To: abuelita who wrote (88430)	11/13/2013 1:08:06 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 104167

I agree with you about raising the children. I think we all sort of came to the same conclusion. I am sure in the nurturing department you are a 10. I would have trusted you to raise my kids, or any kids. I could not watch it for very long. Too sad, too intimate. I also hate Greek tragedies and unrequited love. I like laughter and happiness and animalistic passion. What kind of animal are we anyway, I ask? And I am envious of those who are capable of intimacy. Except for my kids, I have problems with it. I think? The human condition. Who knows anything really?

To: abuelita who wrote (88430)	11/13/2013 5:38:19 PM
From: altair19	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 104167

rhoze n' koan, <i guess my answer would be - i would neither encourage nor discourage such play.> I grew up "fighting" Germans, Indians, and Japanese...then later the Russians....it was play. We took it very seriously using strategy deep the woods to take advantage of the enemy....and in the summer in the rows of corn trying to figure out where the enemy was by listening and figuring their position by the sun. We had rifles, pistols, and a hoge poge of uniforms and helmets our dad's had brought back from the war. But at the same time in the early evening, we'd watch Howdy Doody, Lone Ranger, The Nelsons, the William Bendix show, I Remember Mama, and Sid Caesar's Show of Shows......plus, I was so fortunate to have great parents as most of my friends did too. It was a vanilla middle class upbringing. Also, the time was filled with sports, baseball, hockey, and soccer (soccer was a point off the curve then for a U.S sport, but our town had lots of immigrants who formed teams through their clubs and I loved playing it). After graduation I was drafted. In an infantry unit, it brought back all the same sensations....listening, being careful, thinking hard and reacting quickly......then....everything that happened beyond that I was totally unprepared for. When I got out, it took a year or so to get out of the tilt, but once I did learn how to keep everything balanced.... I attribute that to how I was brought up and consider myself lucky to be where I am today. I hadn't thought about this until you and koan had your conversation....I guess that's what I love about this thread....it keeps your saw sharp. Altair19