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Politics : Manmade Global Warming, A hoax? A Scam? or a Doomsday Cult? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Don Hurst who wrote (3368)11/18/2013 11:53:32 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 4326
 
the weather channel guys said a lot of tornadoes happen in Nov. like in the spring. you need cold air, warm air and some water. look up all the tornadoes in Nov. It's just weather



To: Don Hurst who wrote (3368)11/18/2013 12:30:28 PM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 4326
 
The God of Global Warming
Posted by Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog 1 Comments

After Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, Mayor Ray Nagin said that the storm was divine punishment for "being in Iraq under false pretenses."

Not only was a Liberal deity taking a position on WMDs and punishing George W. Bush by evicting a lot of black people from their homes; but the Democratic divinity was paradoxically also committed to progressive housing policies.

"This city will be a majority-African American city. It's the way God wants it to be," Nagin promised.

Bush is out of office. America is no longer in Iraq. And Democrats have been forced to search for new theological explanations for hurricanes, typhoons and volcanoes.

In response to the devastation of Typhoon Haiyan; the green prophets of the left are prophesying that their liberal deity is angry over capitalism and industrialization.

"Whenever Mother Nature wants to send an urgent message to humankind, it sends it via the Philippines. This year the messenger was Haiyan," The Nation wrote.

The message was apparently that Mother Nature, not to be confused with the nice elderly lady who runs a blog about alternative medicines, really hates prefabricated housing.

"That it was climate change creating the super typhoons that were taking weird directions was a message from Nature not just to Filipinos but to the whole world," The left-wing magazine claimed.

For those infidels questioning whether Nature (capital N) was really speaking through a struggling lefty publication begging readers for money to pay its postal bills, its expert on typhoon theology had an answer.

"Is it a coincidence, ask some people who are not exactly religious, that both Pablo and Yolanda arrived at the time of the global climate negotiations?"

It is of course the very definition of religious faith to assume that a bearded woman in the sky is sending storms to threaten global climate negotiators (while missing them by two hemispheres and 6,000 miles). A more cynical person might suspect that climate negotiations are arranged around storm season for maximum effect.

The Nation, which regularly condemns "Bible Thumping", had switched over to "Whole-Earth-Catalog Thumping"; building a religion around a Mother Nature who communicated her wishes through hurricanes and bankrupt liberal magazines.

Pacific Islanders used to believe that volcanic eruptions were angry notes from their volcano gods. The Yaohnanen tribe in Vanuatu on contact with civilization modernized their beliefs, and after encountering a younger Prince Philip decided that he had come from the volcano and that they ought to worship him.

And so the Prince Philip Movement was born. The islanders are modest in their requests of their god. "If he can't come perhaps he could send us something," the Yaohnanen Chief suggested, "a Land Rover, bags of rice or a little money."

The Philippians may seem absurd, but their religion actually took a step forward from worshiping a volcano, which did nothing constructive and just destroyed things leaving the tribesmen to wonder whether the volcano was angry at their unjustified presence in Iraq or the waste carbon emitted by their cooking fires, to worshiping the Duke of Edinburgh, who can do constructive things like send them autographed photos. And perhaps one day a Land Rover.

While the savage tribesmen were approaching the margins of civilization; Prince Philip's son was reverting to savagery and blaming everything wrong with the world, from local weather to the Syrian Civil War, on the great volcano god of Global Warming.


After some winter storms, Prince Charles announced that, "severe weather conditions in our country are, I have no doubt, the consequences of man-kind's arrogant disregard of the delicate balance of nature." It was the sort of statement that would have been commonplace a century ago. The only thing missing was that "Nature" had replaced "God".

The Yaohnanen tribe had moved on from worshiping a volcano god only capable of destruction; but the son of the living god they worshiped seemed eager to find a volcano god to worship. The savages were trying to become civilized, while civilized men were trying to become savages.

At the Washington Post, the Rev. Dr. Susan Brooks Thistlethwaite, a former president of the Chicago Theological Seminary and a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, gathered the tattered remains of her religion around herself and argued that Typhoon Haiyan was caused by human sin and needed to be atoned for by "confessing" that human beings cause typhoons.

But then Thistlethwaite, displaying less faith in whatever god she believed in than Ray Nagin had in his Chocolate City divinity and The Nation in its typhoon-hurling Mother Nature, added that "These “superstorms” aren’t an “act of God,” but an act of willful disregard for God’s creation."

That is to say, God is dead. Instead Republicans must confess to the liberal theologians who speak for the superstorms, that they were the ones who made the winds blow. And if they don't, then the speakers-to-superstorms will also hold them responsible for the next hurricane.

What miracle is the Rev. Dr. Thistlethwaite's faith in superstorms founded on? Like the storms themselves, it's a bit circular. "The fact that we are having to invent new language to describe such massively destructive storms, like “Super Typhoon Haiyan” or “Superstorm Sandy” suggests we need to take a different look at such violent storms today and theologically assess the human responsibility for them."

Using the Rev. Dr. Thistlethwaite's reasoning, the fact that we have a word for Superman suggests that we need to seriously investigate whether there are superhuman beings among us who can leap tall buildings in a single bound.But worshipers of the liberal God of Global Warming who hates the War in Iraq, white people living in New Orleans and carbon have a looser relationship with facts than Pacific Islander tribes.

The term Superstorm isn't new. And neither are superstorms. I n a listing of storms from 1932 onward, the first one shows up in 1940.

Back at the UN Climate Change summit, which apparently incites Mother Nature to spout off typhoons like soda bubbles, the representative for the Philippines, Naderev "Yeb" Sano, threw a tantrum and demanded that Global Warming skeptics visit the islands to see the devastation.

Then he announced that he was going on a hunger strike until something meaningful was done.

In 1991, Tropical Storm Thelma killed over 5,000 people in the Philippines.The President of the Philippines has estimated that the death toll from Super Typhoon Haiyan will be less than half that

Before Christianity and Islam, people in the Philippines believed that storms were brought by Saraganka Bagyo, the God of Storms, or Galurâ, a giant eagle who brings storms. Another story has it that they originated from a dispute between the descendants of the sea god and the sky god. Now Carbon has become the new Storm God, bringing bad weather because people won't do anything meaningful, like cripple their economies and destroy their standards of living to appease him.

Sano, like Prince Charles and Ray Nagin, is reverting to a paganism buttressed by a science so bad that it is indistinguishable from superstition and magical thinking.

Despite the Rev. Dr. Thistlethwaite's faith in a superstorm apocalypse derived from spending too
too much time watching the Weather Channel, t here is no actual pattern of increased storm activity. Nor is Mother Nature targeting UN climate negotiations with typhoons. The only pattern here is the one that a liberal religion that believes in little except human evil assigns to storm patterns.

If the God of Global Warming worshiped by The Nation and the Rev. Dr. Thistlethwaite seems senselessly malicious, it is because it exists in their minds as a reflection of human evil. The left proclaimed the death of God only to find themselves in need of some entity to inflict ruthless punishment on those who did not believe in their left-handed path; which in the absence of the Gulags they were no longer able to do.

Liberalism in act of idolatry built the God of Global Warming in its own image. Like liberals, their deity can destroy, but not create.

The God of Global Warming is the embodiment of liberalism and holds all the politically correct
beliefs while carrying out brutal atrocities in the name of the left's favorite political causes. With a moral logic as flawed as that of its worshipers, it is a deity that kills people in the Philippines for the carbon crimes of Americans and kills people in New Orleans because Bush bombed Iraq.


Science only truly began to take off when scientists stopped trying to base it around their preconceived worldviews of how things should be, but began to actually draw conclusions from the data, instead of fitting the data into their conclusions.

The human race did not suddenly become much smarter in the last few centuries. Instead our greatest minds learned a little humility and began getting out of the way of the data. Instead of trying to force reality to conform to their philosophy, they experimented with building a philosophy around reality. The left has killed reality-based science, along with so many other human accomplishments.

Global Warming is the worship of the left. It elevates its petty biases against industry and the middle class to the status of a religion. It insists on their right to act as the mediators between individuals and the economy or else the God of Global Warming will unleash her superstorms on the bourgeois infidels.

sultanknish.blogspot.com



To: Don Hurst who wrote (3368)11/18/2013 2:04:06 PM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations

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Don, over a now lengthy life, I have always found that the so-called experts are not sacrosanct Gods who we must worship as infallible. To the contrary, I have found their feats to be clay all too often. <when Steven Chu and the very great majority of scientists, world wide, who have studied this very serious planet problem are up against Monckton, Morano, Singer and other extremist right wingers, particularly, in our country, you lose. >

For example, in regard to lead in petrol [aka gasoline], the scientists and experts said it wasn't affecting intelligence and the cost of not including lead in petrol would be huge. I suspected that lead wasn't a problem and that it blew away, being diluted so much as to be inconsequential.

But then BP Oil gave me a job which included looking after the environmental aspects of burning petrol in cars. I got a stack of scientific literature and waded through it all, which included studies by Needleman en.wikipedia.org After reading all that was available and thinking about it, I decided that in fact lead in petrol was an environmental catastrophe and that BP and everyone else ought to stop putting lead in petrol.

As it happened, I was promoted to BP Oil International despite expressing my opinions about lead in petrol and was able to bring some persuasive powers to bear to fix that [and other problems]. Contrary to popular mythology, people who work in big Oil do not like walking to work inhaling carcinogenic particulates and having acidic sulphur oxides dissolving their ancient buildings and the inside of their engines. Neither do they like their children's brains to be poisoned. But as the people in Beijing are finding, it's not a simple matter to eliminate pollution. It costs big bucks to force the changes on those doing the polluting and poor people are not necessarily all that keen to incur those costs.

BP had been opposing capital investment [as did other companies] to fix environmental problems but was contributing to CONCAWE to study the problems so that decisions could be rational. By the 1990s, my argument to BP was being accepted that investing in pollution control is as valuable as investing in engine performance if that's what the public and politicians want and will pay the increased bills. I quit BP in 1989. My very last conversation with Hans den Ouden, my boss's boss, was that he told me BP was coming around to my way of thinking. I laughed as the process seemed glacial. But indeed they did change and so did industry in general as the political pressure for environmental protection grew during the 1990s.

CO2 is not like lead which is poisonous at any level. CO2 is good stuff. What is at issue is whether we have too much of a good thing yet, or will have over the next 100 years.

Steven Chu seems to me to be like the promoters of lead. He has a vested interest. The promoters and governments and all sorts couldn't see that lead in petrol was doing damage to the tune of about 0.3 IQ points nor could they understand the huge value of IQ points. They think "People have about 100 of them, so 0.3 of an IQ point is neither here nor there. Tests of IQ vary way more than that just on a daily basis".

His false premise is that Earth is in Balance. The false first principle of the Global Alarmists is that there is a natural balance on Earth and we had better not disturb it. There are cycles and feedback loops which do balancing, but they are not really balancing mechanisms. They are just pressure reducing mechanisms. Whether it's deer over-eating and ruining their own habitat, or wolves eating the last deer, killing off their food supply, or hurricanes moving air from high pressure to low pressure, or wind taking water from the equator to drop as snow in Antarctica, it's pressure reduction. It's not balancing.

The process is more like a share market price. A share price is sort of instantaneously in "balance" with buyers and sellers matched evenly. But at any time share prices can go zooming away as perceptions and reality change and forcings change minds. Yes, a small "forcing" such as more CO2 can move the needle a bit, but there are vastly bigger other forces acting to determine the actual climate share price. But have a look at the long term Dow index and you won't find any natural balance. Climate is like the Dow. Billions of things are constantly pushing on it. Normally, over a few days, "Dow in the Balance" is a valid idea. But over 20 years, a bit of CO2 is irrelevant.

The absorption of particular light frequencies by CO2 has been shown to be false as a climate warmer. 15 years and no warming. The light was still absorbed, the CO2 didn't stop doing what it does. The theory was bung. In fact, so little extra light is absorbed that it was irrelevant. Claiming that the heat jumped deep into the ocean is silly as it can't just sneak from the troposphere to the deep ocean without being noticed on its way. It would have to have a mechanism to get there too.

What we actual Greenies are more curious about is with all the extra CO2, plants are loving it, and need less irrigation, so are likely to be increasing their coverage of dry climate areas, thereby warming the planet. Chlorophyll, clouds, snow and insects are the biggies of climate. CO2's main effect is as food for plants. The absorption of particular wavelengths by CO2 is trivial. Insects and other beasties put out CO2 in large amounts.

Steven Chu has got things wrong. When it's a debate between his computer climate models and reality, and reality disagrees with him, Steven loses. Not me. It doesn't matter how many PhDs he has, or how much knowledge, if his opinion doesn't match reality, he loses, not me. I won.

But wait, CO2 could become a problem if Peak People, technology changes and cultural shifts don't solve the CO2 emissions problem first. Peak People is due 2037 [or sooner with calamitous catastrophe such as Malthusian solutions to over-crowding in Egypt and other places, or H5N1 diseases, or a bolide in the Pacific Ocean], technology developments are accelerating towards the Kurzweil singularity, cultural shifts are seeing car culture abandoned.

Since CO2 is only at 400 ppm and 500 ppm should be no problem, we can wait to see what happens over the next 40 years. You probably won't have to worry about it as your CO2 production will cease some time sooner than that. Meanwhile, the corn is growing well, with less irrigation, with all the extra CO2 so that's a good thing. Let's see whether my October 2008 2020 foresight was correct and we in fact get global cooling in 2020.

Mqurice



To: Don Hurst who wrote (3368)11/18/2013 2:27:47 PM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations

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Just on the "fracking": <But I do very strongly believe that digging up and "fracking" the planet at a very fast increasing rate and then burning the stuff we dig up is very severely destroying the only world, particularly its atmosphere, we have and can live on.> It's a rude sounding word which seems to be the main problem with it. It also suggests Earth is being broken up into little pieces.

But don't worry about that. The whole crust has been ground up, subducted, erupted out of volcanoes, ripped apart in earthquakes, eroded into plains, compressed, dissolved and redone again. Look at the Dolomites, White Cliffs of Dover, Bryce Canyon and Grand Canyon for example. Huge erosion making human fracking efforts insignificant.

There are peaceable parts of the crust, such as the pre-Cambrian shields which are floating happily without subduction or plate grinding going on. But places like New Zealand, aka "The Shaky Isles" are under constant attack by geophysical processes. A seismograph wouldn't show fracking at all. Look, it's really still right now, but those tiny movements would be much bigger than fracking noise: geonet.org.nz

If nobody told you where fracking is being done on the planet, you could travel the world for all your life and never find a fracking site. Same for Butte mine which was considered destruction of the planet long ago, but it's now a nice lake. The world is a big place and as Tony Hayward said of the oil spill, the ocean is huge and the spill was tiny.

Don't worry about it.

Mqurice



To: Don Hurst who wrote (3368)11/21/2013 4:54:31 AM
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The weather is no more severe than it has ever been. There is no global warming. The temp of the earth cycles over long periods of time and has nothing to do with man. You have been duped.