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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (547001)11/20/2013 8:56:23 PM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 793966
 
At what cost?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (547001)11/20/2013 9:47:02 PM
From: Stevefoder  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793966
 
(Obamacare) It will reduce the number of uninsured. That is a certainty.

I doubt that.

That was the selling point. However, Obamacare was poorly conceived, too complicated and poorly implemented.

There are many unintended consequences.

I am will to bet that by the October 2014 that there will be more uninsured than there was a year earlier than October 2013.

Next prediction. Before the 2016 election it will be obvious that the whole system can not be made to work and is worse than what we had. The big argument by the left will be to scrap Obamacare and go to a Canada/UK style single payer system.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (547001)11/20/2013 9:52:24 PM
From: Hank Scorpio  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793966
 
How can it be a certainty when 5 million people have lost their insurance. It may already be impossible to state your premise.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (547001)11/20/2013 10:44:58 PM
From: LindyBill  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793966
 
It will reduce the number of uninsured. That is a certainty.

I wonder what they will do with them in those death spiral Ins pools? You, of course, are hoping Obamacare can be saved. Sorry, it won't be. It was "a bridge too far." They tried to do to much. Now they will lose everything.

I expect almost all of the 15 Dem Senators to lose next year. God knows how many Congressmen. Our side will then not do enough to reform the situation.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (547001)11/20/2013 10:49:04 PM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793966
 
The CBO, estimating a perfect rollout of O-care, estimated a reduction of the uninsured from 55 million to 29 million at a cost of $1.3 trillion over ten years.

A trillion dollars this decade - in the brightest possible light - to leave 30 million uninsured. The promise was to insure those 30 million. It doesn't do it, even by the government's projections. With the likely death spiral and the tens of millions that will lose their policies because of O-care, it is an utter failure.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (547001)11/21/2013 7:49:10 PM
From: sm1th  Respond to of 793966
 
It will reduce the number of uninsured. That is a certainty.
MA has had Obamacare for several years, and there has been no meaningful reduction in uninsured. Admittedly MA had very low uninsured before, but the mandate and subsidies didn't motivate the uninsured to change.