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Politics : Manmade Global Warming, A hoax? A Scam? or a Doomsday Cult? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: bruwin who wrote (3380)11/21/2013 10:11:41 AM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4326
 
lololol what happened to all the warming in the last 16 years, oh it's hiding at the bottom of the Oceans lolololololol. Good one



To: bruwin who wrote (3380)11/21/2013 1:54:56 PM
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  Respond to of 4326
 
Needless to say, this rise in overall sea temperatures will eventually have a negative affect on what goes on within the oceans. We are seeing that in coral reefs etc.., etc..Those oceans, in turn, are where much of our weather is born, e.g. normal rain production, hurricanes, typhoons, etc..There’s no doubt that we’ve seen some extremely severe storms and weather patterns in recent times.At the current time, I’d say that we’ve been “protected”, to a certain extent, from any unnatural warming in our climate by the “buffer” of our oceans, due to their ability to absorb heat.However, if that heat absorption creates problems of its own within the oceans, then unbalances are very likely to take place over time. And when unbalances occur in nature then what were previously regarded as normal conditions can turn into abnormal.

Hurricanes are definitely a by-product of warming ocean waters. In fact, hurricanes are one of nature's most effective ways of equalizing heat distribution.

The fact is though, we have seen a dramatic drop off in the number of hurricanes and the severity of those hurricanes. There are certainly examples of large and strong storms, but they aren't record setters and there are fewer of them. Any increase in activity and severity that you perceive has to do with the availability of information and the emphasis which that information receives. An example of this is happening in Los Angeles right now. If you turn on the local news, the weather segment dramatically shows "Extreme Winter Weather Warning!" or "Stormwatch 2013!". We had some light rain in the past 24 hours. Whenever there is any type of precipitation it is considered a "storm"...we live in a chicken little culture where, when something legitimately dramatic and dangerous is going to occur, nobody will take it seriously.

oh, and there is no such thing as "normal" conditions. The only constant in climate is change.



To: bruwin who wrote (3380)11/21/2013 4:35:48 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4326
 
Needless to say, this rise in overall sea temperatures will eventually have a negative affect on what goes on within the oceans. We are seeing that in coral reefs etc.., etc.
Coral reefs die off for a lot of other reasons than warmer sea temperatures. We all know that the temperatures of the oceans vary from place to place. And if the seas warm sufficiently to kill off coral, then another part of the ocean that was too cold for coral growth would now become viable..

But part of the problem that is being overlooked is the breakdown of the marine food chain. Corals feast on phytoplankton and Zooplankton. But phytoplankton levels have declined by up to 50% since 1950, according to secchi disk and satellite data..

scientificamerican.com

Bottom line.. we can't expect healthy coral reefs when the basic food they depend upon, Phytoplankton and Zooplankton, have decreased by nearly 50%..

Btw, atmospheric CO2 levels have increased by nearly an equal amount over the same time period.

climate.nasa.gov

Can it really just be coincidence? I call it the REAL "inconvenient truth"..

Hawk