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To: RetiredNow who wrote (756900)12/9/2013 9:44:42 PM
From: puborectalis  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1574854
 
The Punishment Cure By PAUL KRUGMAN
Six years have passed since the United States economy entered the Great Recession, four and a half since it officially began to recover, but long-term unemployment remains disastrously high. And Republicans have a theory about why this is happening. Their theory is, as it happens, completely wrong. But they’re sticking to it — and as a result, 1.3 million American workers, many of them in desperate financial straits, are set to lose unemployment benefits at the end of December.

Merry Christmas.

Now, the G.O.P.’s desire to punish the unemployed doesn’t arise solely from bad economics; it’s part of a general pattern of afflicting the afflicted while comforting the comfortable (no to food stamps, yes to farm subsidies). But ideas do matter — as John Maynard Keynes famously wrote, they are “dangerous for good or evil.” And the case of unemployment benefits is an especially clear example of superficially plausible but wrong economic ideas being dangerous for evil.

Here’s the world as many Republicans see it: Unemployment insurance, which generally pays eligible workers between 40 and 50 percentof their previous pay, reduces the incentive to search for a new job. As a result, the story goes, workers stay unemployed longer. In particular, it’s claimed that the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program, which lets workers collect benefits beyond the usual limit of 26 weeks, explains why there are four million long-term unemployed workers in America today, up from just one million in 2007.

Correspondingly, the G.O.P. answer to the problem of long-term unemployment is to increase the pain of the long-term unemployed: Cut off their benefits, and they’ll go out and find jobs. How, exactly, will they find jobs when there are three times as many job-seekers as job vacancies? Details, details.

Proponents of this story like to cite academic research — some of it from Democratic-leaning economists — that seemingly confirms the idea that unemployment insurance causes unemployment. They’re not equally fond of pointing out that this research is two or more decades old, has not stood the test of time, and is irrelevant in any case given our current economic situation.

The view of most labor economists now is that unemployment benefits have only a modest negative effect on job search — and in today’s economy have no negative effect at all on overall employment. On the contrary, unemployment benefits help create jobs, and cutting those benefits would depress the economy as a whole.

Ask yourself how, exactly, ending unemployment benefits would create more jobs. It’s true that some of the currently unemployed, finding themselves even more desperate than before, might manage to snatch jobs away from those who currently have them. But what would give businesses a reason to employ more workers as opposed to replacing existing workers?

You might be tempted to argue that more intense competition among workers would lead to lower wages, and that cheap labor would encourage hiring. But that argument involves a fallacy of composition. Cut the wages of some workers relative to those of other workers, and those accepting the wage cuts may gain a competitive edge. Cut everyone’s wages, however, and nobody gains an edge. All that happens is a general fall in income — which, among other things, increases the burden of household debt, and is therefore a net negative for overall employment.

The point is that employment in today’s American economy is limited by demand, not supply. Businesses aren’t failing to hire because they can’t find willing workers; they’re failing to hire because they can’t find enough customers. And slashing unemployment benefits — which would have the side effect of reducing incomes and hence consumer spending — would just make the situation worse.

Still, don’t expect prominent Republicans to change their views, except maybe to come up with additional reasons to punish the unemployed. For example, Senator Rand Paul recently cited research suggesting that the long-term unemployed have a hard time re-entering the work force as a reason to, you guessed it, cut off long-term unemployment benefits. You see, those benefits are actually a “ disservice” to the unemployed.

The good news, such as it is, is that the White House and Senate Democrats are trying to make an issue of expiring unemployment benefits. The bad news is that they don’t sound willing to make extending benefits a precondition for a budget deal, which means that they aren’t really willing to make a stand.

So the odds, I’m sorry to say, are that the long-term unemployed will be cut off, thanks to a perfect marriage of callousness — a complete lack of empathy for the unfortunate — with bad economics. But then, hasn’t that been the story of just about everything lately?



To: RetiredNow who wrote (756900)12/10/2013 7:54:03 AM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 1574854
 
Well said.....

You can not educate true believers (and major dumbasses) like ted et al.

You are wasting your breath........



To: RetiredNow who wrote (756900)12/13/2013 3:30:06 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1574854
 
Exactly, thanks to it's clueless dictators. If China was truly free, it's people would do something about the environment, like we have in this country to ensure our rivers are for the most part clean and our air is breathable.

Yes, and China would not be growing nearly as fast as it is now. It costs money and time to do it the right way.

Even in China, the free market is working. China has the fast growth rate in the world of natural gas and electric vehicle sales. Why is that? Because they people want to do something about their environment and the government is finally realizing it's not sustainable to drive growth without protecting the environment.

China has the biggest growth in coal consumption as well. The figures for nat. gas are meaningless because the base numbers are fairly small compared to coal.

Under your Dems rule, though, we have a government that does more spying on its citizens than any other country in the world. We have a government that is instituting mandated health insurance that is resulting in large numbers losing their coverage and affordability is becoming a thing of the past. Your nanny state is an unmitigated disaster.

You're must be fucking joking again. You are comparing the US to a country that periodically closes down its internet access and limits it most of the time. Seriously?

Socialism, Communism, and Dictatorships always work to undermine freedom and ultimately destroy the economy. Please go live in North Korea where you'd be happy and leave our country alone. We're happy with the free markets we had in the past that made this country the wealthiest and most powerful in the world. We don't want you fucking it up with your small brain, Communist agenda.

I want you to leave.........you make absolutely no sense. In fact, I think you may be a bit mental.