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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: bruwin who wrote (90023)	12/10/2013 6:12:21 PM
From: locogringo	2 Recommendations Recommended By Honey_Bee John Respond to of 103300

And I don't know if anyone of us can say, with 100% certainty and truthfulness, that what Barack Obama said he didn't say with sincerity. How can anyone of us know, with certainty, what is in a man's heart? If one doesn't know that a speech was made with sincerity and feeling from the heart, why waste time listening to it? Watching paint dry is more to the point, and more beneficial to one's understanding of the nature of physics. The fact that there are those who are convinced that someone has lied in the past, and therefore anything that he or she says now, or in the future, must also be an untruth, seems to me to be a presumption, at the very least. Perhaps it is a presumption. If so, it is a legitimate and proper one. If the speaker is now known to be a confirmed and pathologic liar, one would be foolish (if not totally insane) to not presume he is lying again to further his own personal causes and grandiosity. Those who ignore the past with this fraud named Obama are doomed to be suckered by him again and again. AAR, you are the one lecturing people here to listen to the man's heart and hear his profound speech. I heard the same ole babblechuck. Good day................

To: bruwin who wrote (90023)	12/10/2013 7:37:40 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	7 Recommendations Recommended By Cage Rattler dave rose John locogringo lorne and 2 more members Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

You raise a number of very worthy points, so let's address each one it turn... First of all, yes, our dialogue is legitimate... I was referring to some posters who like to bait and rant and say nothing of substance... True, we can't look into one's heart, but we can observe one's behavior... what one says is meaningless... behavior is far more eloquent than any speech... True, lying in the past doesn't mean one would always lie, but when this maggot of a person has been a pathological liar from the beginning, it's very normal and natural to expect the habitual liar to lie again... Yes, the content of a speech may be worthy, but I also find it profoundly hypocritical for that maggot to say in his speech that leaders of other countries should listen to the voices of their people while this maggot himself turns a deaf ear to any criticism at home... you criticize the maggot and you're automatically a racist... how can anyone debate anything with a paranoid lunatic liar like that??? Of course you, or anyone, could quote Abraham Lincoln, but you would also refer to those words as a quote from Abraham Lincoln... you certainly wouldn't give the Gettysburg Address to an audience and then claim the speech as your own... that's not only a lie, that's plagiarism, something which the vice maggot biden has already done, he gave a speech calling it his own while he stole it from someone else... what would you call that??? Most people would call him an outright thief, cheater, and liar... GZ