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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Shoot1st who wrote (90039)	12/11/2013 8:16:37 AM
From: bruwin	1 Recommendation Recommended By Fiscally Conservative Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 103300

" The missing part of your equation is the historical significance of Obama's consistent behavioural pattern." Obviously, Shoot1st, I've not been successful, where you are concerned, in my attempt to separate the content of what a man has said from one's opinion of him or from his prior actions. We may just have to agree to disagree on that point. (Needless to say, should I ever be in your neck of the woods, I'll certainly make sure not to arrive unannounced. I'd hate you to Shoot1st and ask questions later !!) " But difficult to think anybody would/could exempt their past behaviours when contemplating the value of their message." When I read that comment of yours, especially the reference to "past behaviours" and "value of their message", the following thought came to mind. Some may not regard it as relevant, but here it is anyway .... Hundreds, if not several thousands, of years ago there were these two individuals, Archimedes and Pythagoras. Due to the fact that, in those days, there wasn't that much in the way of recorded biography, gossip columns, incisive news reporting, etc.. etc..., we cannot be very sure as to the true nature of these two individuals. Maybe they had been paedophiles, maybe they had been closet sociopaths, maybe they had committed acts which would have been regarded as completely and socially unacceptable, maybe either or both of them had been plagiarists. We just cannot know for a certainty. However, when Archimedes leapt, (apparently) naked out of his bath and shouted "Eureka" as he ran down the road because he had just determined the fact that the volume of water displaced was equal to the volume of the body that displaced it, should that monumental discovery and the "value of that message" have been ignored, derided and dismissed because of his possible "past behaviours"? And maybe much the same could be said of Pythagoras back about 2500 years ago. Who can be certain of his true character and past behaviours ? However, should his famous "square root of the hypotenuse" statement also have been ignored, derided and dismissed because of his possible "past behaviours"? Yes, those examples may not be of the same subject matter in relation to what Barack Obama spoke of especially as there is the option of applying scientific proof, but I believe it does say something about constructively interrogating what was said apart from who may have said it. " Obama has proven to be a pathological liar, borderline sociopath and a malignant narcissist" With regard to that comment of yours, I came across the following quote by Klaus Kinski ..... " One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real."