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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (239820)12/13/2013 9:13:12 AM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541941
 
You can't unring the bell. There is no way that you can just turn back the pages and make things like they use to be.

There is the example of Scott Walker in Wisconsin. He took away union powers, stood up to the loud protests and low poll numbers for awhile, and now enjoys better poll numbers than Obama. That is what they will point to. If they do manage to gain control of Congress and the Presidency, you will see a lot of "unringing the bell."

If republicans want to undo Obamacare - they have to propose something to take it's place

Heck, to hear them talk, we have the finest medical system in the world right now, the envy of everyone who is anyone. It has kept Dick Cheney alive, hasn't it? Don't people flock to our system? Everyone who can afford it, anyway?

You underestimate their capacity to delude themselves. They see their own small world, that's all, and even that is seen through a lens that distorts everything. They still believe that Reagan shrunk the government--it was the Democrats in Congress that increased the deficit in the 80s, not Reagan. And it was the Republican Congress that led to the balanced budget in the 90s, the Clinton admin was just along for the ride, it would have been even better if Clinton hadn't raised taxes, lol. Their capacity for rationalization in the service of their low tax, "small" government ideology is endless.



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (239820)12/13/2013 10:47:14 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541941
 
There are Republican policy makers think tank types who are urging their party to adopt health care alternatives to Obamacare (the details of which escape me right now), but the elected Pubs are currently having too much fun, apparently, in enjoying the rollout problems of the AFCA to take those proposals seriously right now.

By the 16 Presidential election though (depending on how the 14 mid-terms go) we may see the pub party platform incorporate an alternative health care approach.