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To: Honey_Bee who wrote (6811)12/14/2013 4:45:19 PM
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Democrats Using Boehner in Fundraising Efforts

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NewsMax.com ^ | 12 Dec 2013 | Cynthia Fagen



To: Honey_Bee who wrote (6811)12/14/2013 9:52:18 PM
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Occupier Wins $80,000 Settlement With City For Hurting His Thumb and Giving Him Nightmares

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Mental Recession ^ | Dec. 9, 2013 | Rusty Weiss





To: Honey_Bee who wrote (6811)12/14/2013 9:54:36 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
Light Bulb Ban Set to Take Effect
CNN ^ | 13 DECEMBER 2013 | WKRG.COM
Posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:04:40 PM by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Light bulb manufacturers will cease making traditional 40 and 60-watt light bulbs -- the most popular in the country -- at the start of 2014. This comes after the controversial phasing out of incandescent 75 and 100-watt light bulbs at the beginning of 2013. In their place will be halogen bulbs, compact fluorescent bulbs, LED bulbs and high efficiency incandescents -- which are just regular incandescents that have the filament wrapped in gas. All are significantly more expensive than traditional light bulbs, but offer significant energy and costs savings over the long run. (Some specialty incandescents -- such as three-way bulbs -- will still be available.)

The end of old light bulbs will likely anger some consumers that are already faced with higher prices for a variety of goods. But it will also tick off tea party activists since the ban is the result of the final phase of government-mandated efficiency standards.

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Time to fill up the lanterns with whale oil blubber again.

1 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:04:40 PM by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I f’ing hate these new bulbs. They feel like they suck your soul out of your body.



2 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:06:09 PM by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
OMG, I’m glad I happened to see this on FR. I’d forgotten more bulbs are going extinct. Will buy more now before the end.



3 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:07:57 PM by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I'm gonna miss my 100w-200w-300w mogul-base 3-way. I'm completely resigned to it. (And I used it to heat my apartment in college).

4 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:09:51 PM by 1rudeboy
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Some days it’s like government is just around to be a total pain in the ass.



5 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:10:12 PM by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
Good luck finding any.



6 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:10:35 PM by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
since regular bulbs’convert 95% of energy to heat, and only 5% to light, could one not reclassify them as heaters that also incidentally give off light?



7 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:14:23 PM by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The CFL bulbs contain Uptonite.



8 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:15:16 PM by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This is SO stupid!

I especially need to stock up on candelabra bulbs.

This annoys me to no end and I don’t like having to use up shelf space hoarding dang light bulbs.



9 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:15:17 PM by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Here in Seattle, I can legally sell marijuana, but I can go to jail for selling the wrong kind of light bulbs.



10 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:16:10 PM by zeestephen
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Some people need full spectrum light bulbs, especially in the winter.



11 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:16:11 PM by nickcarraway
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I purchased 5 of the new LED light bulbs today (Lowes brand) and I have to say I am very impressed. They put out 60w and only use 13w and they are bright! Much warmer light than I expected. If they last half as long as they claim it will be worth it.

Probably going to go LED in the house as well considering my kids have never turned a light out!



12 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:20:00 PM by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It gets more and more expensive to live ...



13 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:20:08 PM by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Secret Agent Man; MinuteGal
You can continue to buy incandescent light bulbs at “newcandescent.com” which is now a new advertiser on Rush Limbaugh’s radio show. Check them out, and they are legal incandescent bulbs, originally considered a more industrialized version modified and meet the new standards for bulbs.



14 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:20:31 PM by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Star Traveler
Bump!

By design. The Ob_tard wants us all dead anyway.



15 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:22:57 PM by Texas Fossil
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Thanks. I may need it, haven’t scanned the light sections in awhile.



16 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:23:10 PM by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Lousy light to read by



17 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:23:36 PM by RnMomof7
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To: zeestephen
Post and quip of the day.



18 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:23:54 PM by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Can’t blame Obama for this one. IIRC, it was introduced by a Repubilcan congressman.



19 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:25:28 PM by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Secret Agent Man
since regular bulbs’convert 95% of energy to heat, and only 5% to light

Eventually all the energy is converted to heat, one way or another



20 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:26:15 PM by HangnJudge
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Salamander
"I f’ing hate these new bulbs. They feel like they suck your soul out of your body."

It's not your imagination.

The CFC bulbs emit a strobe like flicker that can cause all kinds of serious adverse health reactions.

Three years ago our house was rebuilt after a fire. All the fixtures were "modernized." I started almost immediately to get headaches and nervous irritability.

After switching out the bulbs where possible and replacing the "modern" fixtures with some antiques, it's all better now.

I'm buying every 40 & 60 watt bulb I can get my hands on.

21 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:29:50 PM by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I remember putting a 100 watt bulb in one of those light bulb holders with a hook and laying it inside my car hood when the temps were really cold. That kept the engine warm enough to start up, which it did not do without the heat from that bulb. Guess I couldn’t do that with these new bulbs.



22 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:29:51 PM by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I had a dear friend that had a photosensitivity disorder where certain lighting conditions would cause her to have seizures... It was rough... just going for a drive with the sun flickering through the trees would set it off.

One time I took her over to see where I used to live and I totally forgot that my former roommate thought he was so environmentally conscientious by putting CFLs in every single fixture in the house. This is the same dude who routinely would fall asleep on Friday nights with every lightbulb and TV in the house going... along with a McIntosh 240 tube amp playing away...

She could not be near the light of CFLs... and I understand it because the light they give off makes my stomach turn and I don’t have any sort of siezure disorder. LED Christmas lights bother me as well because I can discern the 60 Hertz flicker... especially when travellinging in a vehicle past them.

Oh and the newfangled blue LED lights used on lightbars or car cars are disorienting... I believe that is by design, like those “puke lights” they have for crowd control.

Anyways... I refuse to use CFLs. I will sooner use an old kerosene railroad lantern to read by.



23 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:29:53 PM by Rodamala
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I never liked the CFL’s but the LEDs are awesome and pull a lot less current.

Regardless of whether it should be regulated, probably shouldn’t, it is the direction as a consumer I am headed in anyway.



24 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:30:16 PM by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: volunbeer
The light has greatly improved on them, but they still don’t last as long as advertised.



25 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:31:20 PM by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Yes. Which is exactly why I buy 25W tubular incandescent bulbs to both light and heat my lizards’ terraria. What are the herpkeepers supposed to do after this ban? Be forced to buy the very expensive “dedicated” heat bulbs offered by reptile supply companies? I will be buying up all the 25W tubular bulbs I can find now for the future.



26 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:31:56 PM by EinNYC
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To: Star Traveler
It gets more and more expensive to live ...

From an upfront/opportunity costs perspective, yes.

I've been using CFLs for years now. Not because of any "green" benefit (note: back in college I liked to annoy Liberals by spraying econo-sized AquaNet out my dorm window while playing Lee Greenwood's "God Bless the USA" in the background), but because I really, seriously, hate having to change lightbulbs and the longer duration lives appeal to me.

From my own observation, probably 90% exceed their estimated life-spans. Particularly the newer ones. But I have a few that I picked up for free during a trial period back in 1994 or 1995 that are still going strong, and after five different apartment/house moves.

27 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:32:19 PM by tanknetter
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I have been stockpiling.



28 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:33:00 PM by impimp
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Sorry. I posted “CFC” should have been “CFL.”

(I still haven’t gotten over the way they screwed with my asthma inhaler.)



29 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:33:54 PM by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
This is exactly the “workaround” being used... sell them as “specialty heating elements”... and there you be.



30 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:35:01 PM by Rodamala
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The incandescent light bulbs I use are for my outside buildings. Who cares if they give off heat. They are there to light the night.



31 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:35:22 PM by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: volunbeer
yes but each bulb is ridiculously expensive. That is a lot of cost invested in a single bulb that can fry the next time there is a voltage surge.



32 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:36:05 PM by plain talk
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To: Jonty30
I figured they would not last as long as advertised. I know the curly mercury bulbs they replaced were supposed to last three times longer than they made it. Only 2 out of the 5 were still working in the garage.

I am not a fan of the mercury bulb (don’t know anyone who is) but I like LED technology and they were not as expensive as I thought they would be. We have about 50 recessed lights in the house and I am considering going LED with those.



33 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:38:09 PM by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I know some dim bulbs in DC I would like to replace.



34 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:38:21 PM by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: flaglady47
Thanks. However I go there and see the cost is $3.89 for one 75w bulb. Good grief.



35 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:38:36 PM by plain talk
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To: Secret Agent Man
"could one not reclassify them as heaters that also incidentally give off light?"Already been done. ---> Heat Balls.

36 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:38:53 PM by Paladin2
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
WARNING, VERY GRAPHIC and NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN.














MERCURY POISONING THREAT broght to every home by the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF.












    Be sure to thank the Democrats and the Kenyan Turd .... PROPERLY.



37 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:39:19 PM by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: flaglady47
Bookmarked and thank you!



38 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:42:32 PM by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: plain talk
8 bucks a pop for the 60w Lowes brand. The low wattage newfangled Gorebulbs I had put in the garage 3 1/2 years ago were supposed to last much longer than they did. Those were super expensive - I think I paid 24.99 each for those.



39 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:42:49 PM by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: shibumi
Be wary if you decide to stock up. When California made 100W. bulbs illegal to sell a couple of years ago I went on-line and found a supplier for the 100W. globe bulbs our fixtures are designed for.

What I received are marked 100W. but they don’t put out nearly as many lumens of light as the ones I’d been using (1,600 lumens.) They’re roughly equivalent to 60W. bulbs (800 lumens.)



40 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:46:55 PM by Bernard Marx
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To: volunbeer
IMHO the problem is the resentment to the arrogance of the government. The new style bulbs are expensive compared to incandescent bulbs however they do last longer. If you get a bulb with light from the appropriate heat range...that is yellow rather than blue white light, they are warm enough. Of course that is all personal taste. So I am with you. The new bulbs last much longer and their light is good and their electricity consumption is low so given the choice I would buy the new bulbs . But I resent forcing me to buy what they, our tyrants, demand we buy. So there is that.



41 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:47:34 PM by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: 1rudeboy
FYI, "The U.S. will simply no longer allow 40W and 60W bulbs to be manufactured or imported, just like 100W and 75W bulbs have already been phased out. There are many exceptions to the rule, and special types of bulbs like 3-way bulbs, appliance lamps, colored lamps, and rough service bulbs will remain legal to produce and bring into the country."

42 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:47:42 PM by rawhide
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To: Bernard Marx
Yeah there are a lot of crappy incandescent bulbs out there today.



43 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:48:12 PM by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
That is a good idea.



44 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:48:20 PM by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: 1rudeboy
What You Should Know About the 2014 Light Bulb Ban

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45 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:49:34 PM by rawhide
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To: rawhide
Yah, but mogul-base bulbs were “obsolete” in the 90’s. Haven’t seen one for a long while (although I suppose they might be available online).



46 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:50:42 PM by 1rudeboy
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Ya. And they have mercury too. They pulled mercury thermometers off of the shelves and they force these things on us.

47 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:52:11 PM by dhs12345
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I’m so angry about this. The claim that the LED bulbs last for years is a lie. You fork out fifteen or twenty bucks for one and it burns out on a few months. I can’t afford that. They do want us broke, cold, and in the dark.



48 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:52:24 PM by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: wonkowasright
Agreed. As soon as they aren't $40 each and closer to $1. That’ll probably be 20 years, though if ever.

49 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:55:08 PM by dhs12345
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To: Nuc 1.1
I also resent government telling me what kind of bulb I can get. The mercury bulbs were a disaster IMO. Crappy light and potentially going to make every landfill a superfund cleanup site using current EPA rules.

However, I am a fan of saving money as long as the light is warm and appears somewhat natural. Hopefully the mercury filled Gorebulbs are gone because the LED lights seem to be much better. I still have a stockpile of the older style bulbs because I did not like the mercury ones - they give me headaches.



50 posted on Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:56:09 PM by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Honey_Bee who wrote (6811)12/19/2013 10:09:49 PM
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