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To: koan who wrote (758492)	12/18/2013 12:50:54 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Recommended By Blasher Respond to of 1577885

They always do an ultrasound before. And what is wrong with closing down clinics that are unsafe? I think liberals don't care about women at all.

To: koan who wrote (758492)	12/18/2013 1:28:02 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	2 Recommendations Recommended By Blasher gamesmistress Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577885

First: that isn't factual. We are not talking about closing down planned parenthood offices. We are talking about removing federal budgeting. If liberals want to fund planned parenthood offices out of their own pockets, more power to them. This is about spending our tax dollars where the federal government lacks the constitutional authority. making women take ultrasounds before an abortion and making abortions hard to get and trying to pass personhood amendments isn't a war on women? How can you possibly object to protecting the civil rights of an individual human being? At some point during the the development in the womb, the fetus becomes an individual human being. The federal government is obligated to protect the rights of Individual human beings in this country. This is something that the pro-abortion crowd needs to compromise on. You can't claim to be concerned about the civil rights of women, minorities, gays, muslims and then ignore the rights of a baby who happens to still be in the mother. At some point, that baby's right to live outweighs the mother's rights to do whatever she wants to her body. If the pro-abortion people were to compromise on two things, the abortion debate would dry up for all intents and purposes. These are: 1. Draw the line at 22 weeks. This gives plenty of time for a woman to make a decision and it can be argued that any younger than this, the baby is not viable on its own and therefore is not an individual. 2. Don't force people who are opposed to abortion to pay for them through taxes. -Wanting to protect the rights of individual human beings is not a war on women. It is a war for babies. -Wanting the federal government to stick to its charter and only use powers that were granted to it in the constitution, is not a war on women. It is a war on government bureaucrats expanding their powers beyond their authority.

To: koan who wrote (758492)	12/18/2013 3:54:10 PM
From: longnshort	3 Recommendations Recommended By Jorj X Mckie Taro TideGlider Respond to of 1577885

"planned parenthood offices and cutting their budget, is not a war on women; and making women take ultrasounds before an abortion" hey someone tell this moron that PP makes women take ultra sounds before they preform an abortion. he has me on ignore. it's amazing how stupid koan is.

To: koan who wrote (758492)	12/19/2013 3:05:15 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	3 Recommendations Recommended By Blasher TimF TopCat Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577885

Koan, You don't think closing down planned parenthood offices and cutting their budget, is not a war on women; and making women take ultrasounds before an abortion and making abortions hard to get and trying to pass personhood amendments isn't a war on women? I know it's hard for you to believe, but there are plenty of women who are pro-life. In fact, 57% of women now adopt a "pro-life" view vs. 40% who adopt a "pro-choice" perspective: townhall.com Tenchusatsu