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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (240718)	12/29/2013 1:04:22 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541114

To put this back in context, Steve, it's not debatable. What's debatable right now is whether healthy younger folk will buy health insurance for themselves, the buying of which helps pay the health insurance of older, not so healthy folk, when, and this is the point, they are told they must buy it for themselves. Not to partially underwrite health insurance for others. As for the debatable bit about, let's say Medicare, the entire convoluted Republican position on Medicare is precisely because the worth of the program can't be debated. So they have to try end arounds.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (240718)	12/29/2013 1:09:35 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 541114

"What the other programs are is pure socialistic plays " Comparing International Health Care Systems Ray Suarez and a NewsHour reporting team traveled to the Netherlands in September to explore the country's innovative universal health care system, which has gained attention as a potential model for U.S. health care reform. Netherlands Overview: All Netherlands residents are required to purchase health insurance, which is provided by private health insurers that compete for business. The insurers can be either for-profit or non-profit, but are tightly regulated by the federal government, and are required to accept every resident in their coverage area, regardless of preexisting conditions. The current system was created through a 2006 health policy reform, prior to which the country had a social health insurance system and a separate private health insurance alternative, which no longer exist. The government provides larger subsidies to insurers for participants who are sicker, elderly or have preexisting conditions. Tax credits are given to low income patients to help them purchase insurance. People under age 18 are insured at no cost. Patients can choose among the available insurers, but often get their insurance through group plans administered by their employer. The Netherlands has a separate universal national social insurance program for long-term care, known as the AWBZ, or Exceptional Medical Expenses Act. more pbs.org