To: Brumar89 who wrote (44539 ) 12/30/2013 5:17:31 AM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300 Such limp noodles for brains for u claimed to know something about religions, but not even your own origins? My theory is more than a theory, the Pauline Kitty grew more & more apart from Jewish practices, and these differences became increasingly harsher & distinct during the first two centuries.Gradually emerging a predominantly gentile religion in the empire . And Paul would have had much to with this further seperating the two,setting up his Platonic Christology scientology courses in Greek cities, adressing crowds with a similar self-help oratory that would parallel with an already very religiously adept audience. 1) The Orphic traition the soul is separate from the body & seen as part of the divine In the Orphic tradition the theology of dualism between body & soul was already well established, we all indeed contain the elements of the divine with the potential to be reborn in a baptismal fashion along with a more ascetic living approach:Hence man by his very constitution was believed to be a compound of two natures, one Dionysian and immortal, the other Titanic and mortal. His soul was divine, but while in the body it was confined in a charnel house. Plato made full use of this Orphic conception, and in his Gorgias he quoted "a certain philosopher," who said, "We are dead and the body is a tomb." Pindar earlier stressed the divine origin and nature of the human soul in contradistinction to the mortality of the human body. "While the body of all men is subject to over-mastering death, an image of life remains alive, for it alone comes from the gods," he affirmed. This sharp dualism of soul and body appears again and again in the Orphic tablets, though it is not always clear that the myth of the origin of man from the ashes of the Titans was in mind. On the Petelian tablet (south Italy, third century B.C.) the soul is represented as asserting its divine nature thus: I am a child of Earth and of Starry Heaven; But my race and kingdom is of Heaven Similarly, on three Cretan tablets the soul answers the challenge "Whence are you?" with a reiterated declaration of its dual origin, "I am son of Earth and of Starry Heaven." On the Compagno tablets found near Sybaris the soul makes a like affirmation to the "Pure Queen of Them Below . "avow me that I am of your blessed race." The dualism thus fixed between body and soul was fundamental in Orphic theology. Though the body was an evil thing, the soul was divine and immortal. They were way ahead of you, the foundations already been laid, Paul was not preaching to some fallen pagans lost with no clue, they were already there centuries before, laying the groundwork.