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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (240858)	12/30/2013 9:31:01 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541647

"what can the two sides agree in 2014 that would move the country to a long term fix of SSI/Medicare and Medicaid?" Prolly nothing. Recognizing OCare is a big part of the Medicare fix would be a nice start, tho. Maybe we can agree SS isn't part of the debt problem? Obama can prolly rally the Dems behind this...

To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (240858)	12/30/2013 10:04:43 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541647

I understand the point you are trying to make. The only problem with it was your original claim that there is no support for programs in which some pay for others. Clearly an over generalization on your part. As for the second portion, what can be agreed on in 2014 and the reference to Bowles, I would prefer the Dems work from Elizabeth Warren's position that we need to strengthen SS payments for the obvious reasons, not weaken SS support. And move to increase the SS cap, even eliminate it. As for Medicare, I think we need to wait and see just what affect the ACA has no health care costs before we cut benefits. Thus, given the intransigency of the Reps on raising taxes, I see no hope of a reasonable agreement in 2014. Moreover, the deficit is declining which lessens the need for these measures. Moreover, the Bowles' type solutions slow down economic recovery.