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To: average joe who wrote (44570)12/30/2013 11:38:54 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
So is that your opinion? Speak for yourself, not just take potshots at people.



To: average joe who wrote (44570)12/31/2013 7:51:44 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
The truth is that the purported "Jesus" was ill-tempered and uncivilized. Moral leaders show a greatness of spirit and a tolerance for others. They would never dream of an immoral punishment such as torture. Jesus walked with slavers and said not a word against the immorality of slavery. His recommendations for living well is to deny your sexuality and your love of friends and family. Indeed, we are to indulge in HATE--his words.

Can you imagine Socrates cursing a fig tree because he was hungry and could not control an infantile temper?

Dayanand Saraswati[ edit] Dayananda Saraswati, 19th century philosopher and the founder of Arya Samaj, in his book Satyarth Prakash he criticizes Christianity, he described Jesus as a "great thing in a country of uneducated savages", he writes:-
"All Christian missionaries say that Jesus was a very calm and peace loving person. But in reality he was a hot-tempered persons destitute of knowledge and who behaved like a wild savage. This shows that Jesus was neither the son of God, nor had he any miraculous powers. He did not possess the power to forgive sins. The righteous people do not stand in need of any mediator like Jesus. Jesus came to spread discord which is going on everywhere in the world. Therefore, it is evident that the hoax of Christ’s being the Son of God, the knower of the past and the future, the forgiver of sin, has been set up falsely by his disciples. In reality, he was a very ordinary ignorant man, neither learned nor a yogi." [21]

Bertrand Russell[ edit]In the 1927 essay Why I Am Not a Christian, Russell pointed to parts of the gospel where Jesus is saying that his second coming will occur in the lifetime of some of his listeners ( Luke 9:27). He concludes from this that Jesus' prediction was incorrect and thus that Jesus was "not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise". [22]

Regarding Jesus' moral teaching Russell has the following to say:
There is one very serious defect to my mind in Christ's moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment. Christ certainly as depicted in the Gospels did believe in everlasting punishment, and one does find repeatedly a vindictive fury against those people who would not listen to His preaching -- an attitude which is not uncommon with preachers, but which does somewhat detract from superlative excellence. You do not, for instance find that attitude in Socrates. You find him quite bland and urbane toward the people who would not listen to him; and it is, to my mind, far more worthy of a sage to take that line than to take the line of indignation. [23]

Russell also expresses doubt over the historical existence of Jesus and questions the morality of religion: "I say quite deliberately that the Christian religion, as organized in its churches, has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world." [24]

Christopher Hitchens[ edit] Hitchens, late twentieth century author and journalist, was very critical of Jesus and of religion in general. Regarding Jesus' teachings on hell, Hitchens wrote:
The god of Moses would call for other tribes, including his favorite one, to suffer massacre and plague and even extirpation, but when the grave closed over his victims he was essentially finished with them unless he remembered to curse their succeeding progeny. Not until the advent of the Prince of Peace do we hear of the ghastly idea of further punishing and torturing the dead. [25]

Hitchens was critical of Jesus' apparent inconsistency:
If Jesus could heal a blind person he happened to meet, then why not heal blindness? [26]

Hitchens was unimpressed by Jesus' treatment of his mother:
Jesus makes large claims for his heavenly father but never mentions that his mother is or was a virgin, and is repeatedly very rude and coarse to her when she makes an appearance. [27]

Sita Ram Goel[ edit] Sita Ram Goel in the book Jesus Christ: An Artifice for Aggression writes that Mary was an unmarried woman, that the principle of the virgin birth of Jesus and the permanent virginity of Mary are myths populated by Matthew for she was mother of few children besides Jesus, and also that it is only the Catholic Church which continues to stick to the belief of the virgin birth of Jesus, and to the myth of Mary’s permanent virginity.
The real reason for floating the myth of virgin birth seems to be that there had always been a question mark hanging over Mary’s sexual morality, it was clearly a subject which caused the early Christians acute embarrassment. [28]

Goel further added that Jesus was conceived by Mary through some unknown male which Joseph subsequently condones.