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To: tejek who wrote (760493)	12/31/2013 5:23:03 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1575047

>> That’s 6 million U.S. consumers in three months, and for two of those months, as you may have heard once or twice, healthcare.gov wasn’t working especially well. I have a question. Are you REALLY a "consumer" if other people are paying for the shit you consume? Or, are the people who are actually PAYING for the consumer? I get it. They're technically "consuming" the product, so that makes them the consumer. OTOH, if you're talking about consumption from an economic standpoint, it seems like the taxpayers who are paying for it are the REAL consumers. You see where I'm going with this? Economically speaking, at least, these people who aren't paying their own ways are not exactly a GOOD thing. So, why do you and other nutjobs always act as if they are? You want something to get excited about? Let's get a few million people who are actually PAYING for their health care through the exchanges. That would be something. The six million is a pretty grossly inflated figure, and still leaves the program millions of "consumers" in the hole. But if you count the ones who are actually paying for their own shit that number shrinks to something very small indeed. Additionally, 3.9 million Americans learned they’re eligible for coverage through Medicaid and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) in October and November. These numbers include new eligibility determinations and some Medicaid and CHIP renewals. I understand you and Benen don't know anything about this. But "eligibility" isn't the same, or even nearly the same, as "covered". For years, we've watched as persons who were "eligible" for Medicaid wouldn't even bother to do the paperwork as Medicaid just isn't worth the paper it is printed on except for one thing -- getting pain medicine & benzos that can then be sold on the street to the highest bidder. Think of it as a sort of high-rent food stamps scam. Where a single Oxy can go for $20 or even $50. Money machine.