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To: Don Hurst who wrote (761438)1/5/2014 2:12:25 PM
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8 Things Liberals Do to Avoid Having an Honest Debate - Broken Down to a Science



Kyle BeckerOn January 1, 2014http://kylenbecker.com

We’ve all been there: Stuck in a hopelessly circular argument with a liberal who won’t get to the point, acknowledge basic facts even exist, or get past juvenile name-calling in debates. It can be really frustrating.

One thing people can do to fight back is just to code all the non-responses to logical or rational arguments. Cryptically flipping back “Give me a break with that number 5 nonsense” or “Man, number 3, again?” can really humiliate people whose stupidity is broken down to a science.

So with no further adieu, here is your Rosetta Stone of Liberal Rhetoric (and it can be done with less-than-bright members of other political persuasions).

1. Ad Hominem (Name-Calling aka “You’re a Racist!” etc.)

2. Distracting (aka “Pivoting” aka “Changing the Subject”)

3. Somebody Else Did It Before (aka Two Wrongs Make a Right)

4. Obama Doesn’t Know What’s Going On (Or Did I Do That?)

5. It’s a Far-Right Conspiracy (Or The Koch Brothers Did It)

6. You Heard That on Faux News

7. Argumentum Ad Misericordium (Or “Do it for the Children”)

8. It’s Bush’s Fault

Four years into the weakest recovery in U.S. history, it will always be Bush’s fault in the minds of liberals – even if Obama doubles and triples down on Bush deficits, declares wars without Congressional authorization, signs the Patriot Act by auto-pen, you name it – those things that liberals said they were opposed to under Bush are no longer attached to President Obama.

Sometimes, arguing with radicals seems like an exercise in futility. But remember, you’re not always arguing to change their minds, but the minds of rational people who are observing the debate.

ijreview.com



To: Don Hurst who wrote (761438)1/5/2014 2:54:26 PM
From: Brumar89  Respond to of 1574843
 
The Votes Are In And the Award for Wimp of the Year Goes to the Deballed....




To: Don Hurst who wrote (761438)1/5/2014 3:35:00 PM
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Top Docs on Obamacare: 'We Don't Understand It'"We do know, however, that everybody is going to get paid less."

Two top U.S. doctors were guests Sunday on Meet the Press to discuss Obamacare and said that they have no idea how it works.

Dr. John Noseworthy of the Mayo Clinic and Dr. Toby Cosgrove of the Cleveland Clinic were asked by host David Gregory if they understand all the parts of Obamacare -- and if they would be promoting it. Here is Cosgrove's answer:

We don't understand it all yet and we don't understand the implications of how it is all going to affect hospitals and physicians, et cetera - who is going to get what sort of insurance and who is going to be covered with what sort of policy. So, we really don't understand this. We do know, however, that we're going to be paid less for what we do. Hospitals will be paid less. Everybody is going to get paid less. There is going to be less money in the organization. And we've got to learn to be more efficient. And the health care system in the United States is not really a system. It's a whole bunch of cottage industries, and we're coming together as a system to drive more and more efficiency across our organization.

Imagine that. The very doctors who are going to treat Americans enrolled into Obamacare have no idea what will be covered or how the hospitals are going to handle it. The only thing they do know is that they will be paid less for their specialty service. Heart doctors, brain surgeons, spinal specialists -- all paid less. That should be comforting for those who count on lifesaving care from them.

To top it off, they are going to have to be more efficient across the board in an already grossly inefficient industry.

The doctors do not seem too thrilled. That may be why they did not answer the second part of Wallace's question -- will you be promoting it? Guess that's a no.

truthrevolt.org



To: Don Hurst who wrote (761438)1/5/2014 3:38:23 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 1574843
 
Nonsense...took a bumbler like Odumbo to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. What a loser that clown you voted for is!