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To: koan who wrote (761898)	1/6/2014 8:53:16 PM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Recommended By i-node Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573950

Not driving through a red light is to a large extent cooperation, something people would do (once a convention to do so is established) without compulsion or threat of punishment. The part of the response to not go through red lights that is forced, that exists only because of the threat of punishment is not cooperation. That's not to say it isn't a good thing, merely that you can't use it as an example of you supporting more cooperation since it isn't cooperation (and since your not debating an opponent of red light laws). And you can't use it as an example of thinking for yourself. More importantly the majority, I've even say the vast majority, of government compulsion has little connection to red light laws, its mostly not about traffic safety or even safety. Much of it is neither simple, nor obviously justified (or even justified at all). And we liberals think for ourselves. And then you like to take those thoughts and impose them on everyone else rather than have them think for themselves.