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Politics : Manmade Global Warming, A hoax? A Scam? or a Doomsday Cult? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Don Hurst who wrote (3560)	1/11/2014 1:43:42 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Respond to of 4326

Had those polar vortices at least once when I was a kid that I recall as I was school age.. I am 56 born.. all across the northern hemisphere.. was friggin cold.. just like this time... There are so many variables.. I am in sustainable landscape program now... tied to sustainable building... pretty inteersting that one big concern is we need jobs... sustainable and self sustainable are quite fascinating when you look at the definitions some folks use.. yet are tossed out as buzz words for various purposes...

To: Don Hurst who wrote (3560)	1/11/2014 1:59:29 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Recommended By FJB Respond to of 4326

In the Philippines, tropical cyclones (typhoons) are called bagyo. [1] Tropical cyclones entering the Philippine Area of Responsibility are given a local name by the Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA), which also raises public storm signal warnings as deemed necessary. [2] [3] Around 19 tropical cyclones or storms enter the Philippine Area of Responsibility in a typical year and of these usually 6 to 9 make landfall. [4] [5] The deadliest overall tropical cyclone to impact the Philippines is believed to have been the September 1881 typhoon which is estimated to have killed up to 20,000 people as it passed over the country in September 1881. it's typhoons alley, it's been happening since the last ice age, next

To: Don Hurst who wrote (3560)	1/15/2014 10:35:02 PM
From: weatherguru	5 Recommendations Recommended By Bill FJB Jorj X Mckie Magnatizer MulhollandDrive Respond to of 4326

Vortex is a fancy word for anything with vorticity. Polar air mass doesn't obtain clicks, but polar vortex does. Ah, I recall the El Nino phase. Meteorologists will refer to polar vortices as such when they occur after a sudden stratospheric warming event (you can google it...I think another one is occurring right now). Regarding tornadoes...is it worth writing this? I'll write this to educate others regarding it's an investor web site. There are 3 interactive ingredients to form tornadic thunderstorms: 1) warm, moist air-mass, 2) cold, dry air-mass, and 3) three-dimensional wind shear of the “storm” cloud (typically provided by the jet stream). It’s a balance of these 3 ingredients that leads to tornadoes, and this balance most commonly exists in the Great Plains of the United States in the Spring. This set up can obviously exist in the other 3 seasons...like in the southeast in the winter...see Weather Channel on January tornadoes. To me, the tornadoes in OKC (late May) and Illinois (November) were related to large shifts in the Arctic Oscillation pattern. Huh? I'll say it this way...recall the stubborn cold air mass this March/April/May, midwesterners were ready to kill Punsutawney Phil. After mid-November, didn't a record cold air mass settle into the eastern U.S.? And now I have to hear how the cold is related to global warming? Ugh. I really don't see how, but I appreciate AGW arguments from Dr Judith Curry. I also must note what Roger Pielke, Jr., who admits at 2:59:30 in the video in "it's misleading and just plain incorrect to claim disasters associated with hurricanes, tornadoes, flood, or drought have increased on climate time-scales either in the United States or globally." And he's just referencing the IPCC. IMO, the government is scamming us about global warming. Why? It's complex, but I'll just say this: so they can print their way out of debt!

To: Don Hurst who wrote (3560)	1/16/2014 12:43:34 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4326

Norwegian bay froze so quickly -- fish swimming in it froze solid!

To: Don Hurst who wrote (3560)	1/16/2014 5:09:34 PM
From: weatherguru	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4326

Message #3560 from Don Hurst at 1/11/2014 1:36:38 PM "Well let's see...the Philipines had 8 typhoons this season, the last one was quite large as I understand...you know, hurricanes ...and that part you know Asia, had 52 Tropical Depressions (many became named typhoons) and this continuous massive heat wave in Australia...I think all those places are part of this world; you can check that out with Robinson though." One doesn't need to check with me. Despite my "creationistic" source of global temperatures depicting an extended pause in "global warming", even Nature magazine accepts publications taking note of the 16-year hiatus in global warming, and this paper mentions cooling in the tropical Pacific as a factor. nature.com