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To: koan who wrote (763970)1/15/2014 1:37:39 AM
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So I take it you don't believe the US historians who say the US does not have 57 states?



To: koan who wrote (763970)1/15/2014 9:30:45 AM
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Koan has had the fake 97% debunked before but ....

he either can't remember it due to a lifetime of pot use ...

or prefers the lie.



To: koan who wrote (763970)1/16/2014 12:36:21 AM
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Hi koan; Re: "So I take it you don't believe the 97% of atmospheric scientist's who say we are experiencing dangerous anthropogenic global warming?";

I've bolded "dangerous" because that's something you're assuming that's wrong. Go back and read the original study and you'll find that the people who claim the 97% consensus (and I disagree with their methods by the way), did not ask whether scientists agreed that global warming was "dangerous". Instead, this is what was claimed to be agreed:

The research, the most comprehensive analysis of climate research to date, finds that 97.1% of the studies published between 1991 to 2011 that expressed a position on manmade climate change agreed that it was happening, and that it was due to human activity.
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The study published Thursday is the first to take so many papers and authors into account. Doing a search on the popular science article website Web of Science for "climate change" or "global warming" produces over 12,000 results. Of these, 4,014 papers were identified to state a position on climate change. Among those, 3,896, or 97.1% endorsed the consensus that climate change was happening and that it was caused by human activity.

weather.com

The "dangerous" is in your mind, not in the minds of 97% of "atmospheric scientists". Here, read the actual 97.1% paper. You won't find the word "danger" or "dangerous". The only mention of "catastrophic" is in reference to a paper that claims that global warming is *not* catastrophic:

the global temperature record provides little support for the catastrophic view of the greenhouse effect

iopscience.iop.org

iopscience.iop.org

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I've gone over this multiple times. Why is it you fail to understand my position? I'll repeat it again for you. I'll do it in bold, maybe that will help:

(1) Global warming is real.

(2) Humans cause (at least part of) global warming.

(3) Global warming is not dangerous.

-- Carl