To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (764693 ) 1/21/2014 9:15:08 PM From: Bilow Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572145 Hi J_F_Shepard; I'm not "denigrating" his accomplishment. I'm just correcting the record which exaggerated it. Among other errors in the description, it's a lot easier for a PhD candidate to come up with a new theorem in a graduate class than for a "young college student" "working hard in an upper-level math course", which implies an undergraduate in a junior or senior class. For example see:You can quickly see which courses are classified as upper- level simply by looking at the course number. Typically, upper - level undergraduate courses at the University of Iowa are numbered 3000 – 4999. Courses numbered 5000 and above are graduate - level and can only be taken by undergraduates with special permission. continuetolearn.uiowa.edu The guy was a PhD candidate in a graduate class. The reason they used "upper level" to refer to a graduate class was to make the story more impressive. And while a graduate class may technically be "upper-level", a person reading that story, and believing it, would naturally conclude (as I did), that they meant a junior or senior level class taken by an undergraduate. Similarly, among the traditional "students", PhD candidates are the oldest. They are older than beginning grad students. Typically they are older than the people who have masters degrees. Calling one a "young student" is simply inaccurate. This is an older student, probably around age 25 or so. A "young student" would be a junior or senior typically of age around 20 or 22. There's a *hell* of a lot of difference between 20-year-old juniors and 25-year-old PhD candidates. Not even comparable. It's like the difference between a senior in college and a senior in high school. And the article *deliberately* wrote in such a way as to confuse the age and academic position of the student. Now if a junior managed to do something like this, yeah that would be an amazing miracle. But PhD candidates? Hell I could name a dozen who wrote papers in physics that made them very famous. -- Carl