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To: JAG who wrote (2743)12/11/1997 5:19:00 AM
From: Thomas Haegin  Respond to of 78601
 
Re: Value idea: BHP of Australia - Reuters repost

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BHPanalysts see no Christmas joy in profit

Reuters Story - December 10, 1997 19:27
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By Mark Bendeich
MELBOURNE, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Australian steel, mining and
oil giant The Broken Hill Pty Co Ltd (BHP) faces a bleak
Christmas with investors expecting it to announce another steep
fall in half-year profit next week.
BHP, which could once be counted upon to fill investors
Christmas stockings with strong earnings and a growing share
price, is tipped to report net profit before abnormals of around
A$600 million for the half-year ended November 30.
The expected result compares with A$683 million a year ago
and could include a second-quarter loss for the group's troubled
copper division, the world's second-biggest copper producer.
"The macro environment is going against them at the moment
with the Asian slowdown and the copper price heading south and
domestic demand still pretty flat," a fund manager said.
"I can't see much joy anywhere."
Apart from copper, BHP's divisions should actually report a
stronger second quarter, with a weaker Australian dollar coming
to their aid, BHP analysts told Reuters on Wednesday.
Analysts' half-year forecasts range from A$580 million to
A$620 million, the fund manager said. A result of A$600 million
would be 12 percent down on a year ago, but imply that, overall,
second-quarter earnings were ahead of the first quarter.
BHP reported first-quarter earnings of A$284 million before
an abnormal gain of A$73 million from the sale of shares it held
in Foster's Brewing Group .
The group will book as an abnormal gain another A$25 million
in the second quarter from the sale of its remaining Foster's
stake, said Merrill Lynch analyst Elaine Prior.
Prior forecast BHP to report half-year earnings of A$581
million before the abnormal gains. She sees the copper division
breaking even in the second quarter.
"It could make a loss. It's a struggle," Prior said. She
declined to give forecasts for each of the BHP divisions.
BHP's copper business includes 57.5 percent of the low-cost
Escondida mine in Chile, but is struggling with high operating
costs at its North American operations.
Its Ok Tedi mine in Papua New Guinea has been crippled by
drought since August 11, and three-month copper fell to 85 U.S.
cents per pound from almost US$1 over BHP's half-year.
A Sydney-based analyst said he expected copper division's
half-year earnings to collapse to A$58 million, including a A$4
million second-quarter loss. Ok Tedi alone lost the division
about A$50 million in earnings in the second quarter.
The best performer in the second quarter was the petroleum
division, he said, forecasting a 31 percent profit surge in the
final three months to reach a half-year total of A$358 million.
"There will be improvements (in second-quarter earnings) in
all of the divisions apart from copper at the end of the day,"
the analyst said.
The average of analysts' full-year forecasts for BHP
suggests a flat result of about A$1.3 billion in 1997/98, rising
to A$1.64 billion in 1998/99, the fund manager said.
BHP's bottom-line profit and share price have mainly fallen
for the past 18 months, raising serious doubts among investors
about the ability of management to turn its performance around.
BHP's share price has suffered more than most in the recent
sell-off of resources stocks in the Australian market.
It came under attack again on Wednesday, closing 37 cents
lower at A$13.95.
"Unless you see some more convincing numbers and that
returns are lifting across the board, the market is still going
to be sceptical," the fund manager said.
"For the first time there's recognisable value there (in the
share price) but no-one's prepared to step up to the plate yet."
-- Melbourne bureau 613-9286-1421
email: melbourne.newsroom
reuters.com

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To: JAG who wrote (2743)12/15/1997 10:33:00 PM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78601
 
JAG: Re S3. The Elephant wants to stomp li'l S3. And it may just be doing that. However, I like the points you've made. By the numbers it looks very good. At today's price it seems about right, so I'm a buyer. Let's see what's standing (besides the Elephant) in 1999. . (And with my recent picks down 1/2 to 2/3...I hope I and S3 can last into 1999 -g-.) Thanks for posting (I think -g-). Paul Senior