To: Brumar89 who wrote (45325 ) 1/21/2014 1:34:24 AM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300 What Faith? I see both Darwin and Jesus as just examples of two human beings expressing themselves effected & performing roles in the cultural mode of their times, one a rabbi & social reformer, an observer of his fellows. The other more the observer & commentator more to do with animals to which we are all inextricably related (which we share common ancestry that has evolved over a vast continuum of time ) . Blaming Darwin for traits of humanity & behaviors observed going back to prehistory, observed thruout nature, is rather stupid isn't it? Life is a great continuum, so you need "faith" to feel sunlight on your skin, to know which way the wind blows or water is wet or you are hungry? Or love your children & feel faithful to the land of your birth? You need "Faith" to see a simple rabbi from 2000yrs ago say, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter some kingdom of heaven ? What is reality, is that great continuum of endless reproduction, which we are just one tiny part of its expression in nature and that great experience called "Life". The call to love one another is something already demonstrated in Nature, over & over, everywhere a man looks, in the protecting love of the maternal caring of infants, Jesus did not invent or add anything that wasn't already there. Though the Israelite/Hebrews as we know are quite fond of Nature & animals & the land, so what's neew here that isn't shared by every other tribe of human beings? .(Perhaps the answers are all just too simple for human understanding, but when adding "God" into the mix doesnt add to or change what is just simply already there And you have to include Darwin, in fact, you have no choice, all human experience is valuable as it is shared and passed on, from what is the East, West, North & South of the world.)