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To: teevee who wrote (46943)	1/28/2014 12:27:59 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 86356

The position of American Goebbels is already filled.

To: teevee who wrote (46943)	1/28/2014 1:16:28 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 86356

It took me a second or two to see what he meant. <ROTFLMAO........I see you are getting desperate.....or perhaps you are just a wanna be Joeseph Goebbels for your cause.> When people refuse to do reasoning, it's always a great indication of what's going on in their heads and that they are lost causes subject to religious belief, not reason. Wharfie shows he's able to reason with his Hiroshima comparison, which was a good one, except that he missed the point of my comparison of a small 10 metre instant sea level rise now or a 100 metre one over 1000 years. The instant sea level rise is going to happen, sometime, likely within the lives of people now living, so to worry about an insignificant rise of 3 mm/year x 100 years = 30cm over 100 years when a huge wave is coming is absurd. Already there was a small tsunami which killed 15,000 and destroyed umpty$billion in property so my point has already been made. Wharfie also makes my point with the storm surge which can happen anywhere along the USA east coast. Why worry about 30 cm over 100 years when it's the 10 metre surge as in the Philippines which is the worry? Having seen the Japanese tsunami, the hundreds of thousands of people who live on sand spits in NZ are now realizing that sea level rise is a hazard they should think about. It surprises me that people can't think ahead without seeing the actual thing but that's how they are. They normally wait until it happens, then "discover" it and call for an inquiry into why it happened and to make sure it never happens again, even though it was clearly going to happen and the time to act is before it happens, not after. Taupo's caldera is my favourite - Taupo is a city built right inside the crater on the edge of the crater lake. It's all going to be destroyed, probability 1:10 over a human lifetime, which is a big risk. People in Taupo tell their children to wear crash helmets and worry about wifi and cellphone signals causing brain cancer but they keep living there, so it's obvious that they can't understand risk. Same thing for the Rotorua area and rift valley running between the two and anywhere in the heavy fallout area. They won't get enough warning to leave. It's an expanding gas eruption [pumice type] so it's fast, like a geyser, not slow, like Auckland's basalt and scoria type eruptions which are fun to watch from a few hundred metres away. Taupo's eruption should be observed from about 200 km away. The Waikato river basin will be destroyed too with molten Hinuera stone flooding down the valley at 100 km per hour = lookout Hamilton!! Auckland will have no electricity for years. 90% gone. People with photovoltaics on their roof and a generator in their shed will be not too badly off. I'm a bit lazy or I'd be getting photovoltaics now. I should really get a price for supply as it's cheap enough if I believe Wharfie, Eric and co. It'll be really annoying to have no electricity. An option [for me] is to leave NZ for a couple of years [likely a good option]. Mqurice