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To: Bill who wrote (766670)1/29/2014 11:22:28 AM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 1575980
 
Well.....CJ is so "brilliant"(just ask him)...how could you argue with him??? LOLOLOLOLOL!!



To: Bill who wrote (766670)1/29/2014 11:27:31 AM
From: Don Hurst  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575980
 
>>"Obama did not try to get bipartisan support for the ACA. He knew he had the votes and parliamentary procedures to get it passed so he did the usual and thumbed his nose at the republicans. It's why the law is such a disaster today."<<

Always in some fantasy world while continually out to lunch...

Quick, get with jla for some of that help he is always recommending...try anything while you still have time, although I cannot, in all sincerity, say I really care. OK, maybe more posting to joseffy will "help" you...

OHMIGOSH



To: Bill who wrote (766670)1/29/2014 11:51:32 AM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575980
 
Obama did not try to get bipartisan support for the ACA.

Yes he did. That was one of the reasons why single-payer was taken off the table from the beginning. Single-payer would have solved a lot of problems.

From the wikipedia

After his inauguration, Obama announced to a joint session of Congress in February 2009 his intent to work with Congress to construct a plan for healthcare reform. [70] [71] By July, a series of bills were approved by committees within the House of Representatives. [72] On the Senate side, from June to September, the Senate Finance Committee held a series of 31 meetings to develop a healthcare reform bill. This group β€” in particular, Democrats Max Baucus, Jeff Bingaman, and Kent Conrad, and Republicans Mike Enzi, Chuck Grassley, and Olympia Snowe β€” met for more than 60 hours, and the principles that they discussed, in conjunction with the other committees, became the foundation of the Senate's healthcare reform bill. [73] [74] [75]

With universal healthcare as one of the stated goals of the Obama administration, congressional Democrats and health policy experts like Jonathan Gruber and David Cutler argued that guaranteed issue would require both community rating and an individual mandate to ensure that adverse selection and/or "free riding" would not result in an insurance "death spiral"; [76] they convinced Obama that this was necessary, and persuaded him to accept congressional proposals that included a mandate. [77] This approach was taken because the president and congressional leaders had concluded that more progressive plans, such as the (single-payer) Medicare for All act, could not obtain filibuster-proof support in the Senate. By deliberately drawing on bipartisan ideas β€” the same basic outline was supported by former Senate majority leaders Howard Baker, Bob Dole, Tom Daschle and George J. Mitchellβ€”the bill's drafters hoped to increase the chances of garnering the necessary votes for passage. [78] [79]

en.wikipedia.org

You should turn off Fox every once in a while. They are lying to you.