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To: koan who wrote (767291)	2/4/2014 2:19:57 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578303

“Exactly, it is a fool’s errand to try and prove God based on hard facts as there are none.” I have not tried to prove that there are hard facts as you define that term, I have tried to demonstrate that your conclusion is flawed: "We can figure out how old the universe is and all agree with it …" I’m glad you didn’t say we have proven it. "…and if there were a god we would see some evidence and there is none." But there is evidence, just not “hard facts” as you define them. It would be impossible to find hard facts, it would be a contradiction of the claim to faith in an all-powerful creator of the universe, unless you recognize the universe itself with all its intricate order, mystery, and marvel as the basis for that evidence. However, we have the same kind of evidence we use to accept the items in the following list and more, which is why I included them in this discussion: <<What is the nature of awareness? What is the nature of truth? What is the nature of justice? What is the nature of love and hate? What is the nature of purpose? What is the nature of consciousness? What is the nature of reason? What is existence/non-existence? Why is there experience? Why is there something instead of nothing?>> *“We don't even know much about any of that stuff. And what we do know we argue about.”* I don't see anyone arguing, except maybe about some particular circumstance, nor do I see any rational person concluding, “there is none.” There is awareness, consciousness, reason, truth, existence, experience, etc.