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To: Eric who wrote (47232)	2/2/2014 4:50:58 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86363

How is that a problem? <The problem with CO is that it does not last long in the atmosphere when exposed to sunlight.> I didn't closely follow the "discussion" but I thought it was about CO being a feedstock for chemical process, by using CO2 combustion output as a source of CO2 for CO via that process. Lots of things are not stable in the atmosphere but that's irrelevant to their use in chemical processes. With only a cursory glance at what was being discussed, it seemed silly to use CO2 as feedstock for some CO process, which would also require a hydrogen source to get into polymerization or whatever to produce diesel fuel or something else. The silly game of finding points of ignorance as though that's a victory is pointless as everyone is nearly totally ignorant about everything and finding the rational routes through the clouds of ignorance is what we should be doing. Otherwise it's just chimps squabbling for power, territory, opm and girls. That's akin to credentialism, which is often used by ignorant people arguing from authority to dismiss inconvenient truths from those not in the peer-reviewed closed-shop guilds and self-dealing cartels. When the Alarmists use such arguments, they don't understand that they are giving evidence of their ignorance and a very good reason why they should be disbelieved with proof demanded and critiques actually answered other than with pathetic "your feet stink and you are not a peer-reviewer" arguments, which simply reiterate the paucity of the Alarmist 'thinking'. If the Alarmists were interested in science and truth, they would not even think of using such arguments as they do. They'd stick to the provable, objective and real. They would not have to hide the decline and take part in a cultist conspiracy to drive their mission. As mentioned by many of the Alarmists, their aim is to keep the fear levels high to keep the cash flowing and political power growing. That's not a convincing position. If Michael Mann was not a crook, he wouldn't need to SLAPP people down, he would invite such interested and influential people around for a nice cup of tea and to understand how they are wrong. But he wants to hide his data, reject critique etc. The data wasn't all just sitting out there on a handy website for anybody to help themselves, though the data was paid for by me and other taxpayers as a public service. Mqurice

To: Eric who wrote (47232)	2/2/2014 5:02:32 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 86363

To Eric so pathetic,,, Talk about hand waving babble. Read on and find out about Anthony Watts who uses PV panels and has an Electric car and is not afraid of his shadow or posting publicly. Unlike the anonymous cowardly trolls who reveal themselves and their deep seated emotionally disturbed minds. Who posts such that there a check several times over on every criterion and test of the ASSHOLE identification checklist????? In your dialog with Sdgla you made all manner of personal attacks on Anthony Watts, and his blog wattsupwiththat.com. you said. Tony's website is total bullshit. siliconinvestor.com And then more attacks against Anthony Watts and then be extension any who find info their useful. No...It's sad because the moron didn't take any science classes and flunked out of college. And that's your "portal" on atmospheric knowledge? Message 29365361 Well anonymous Eric afraid and hiding this is Anthony Watts. wattsupwiththat.com While I have a skeptical view of certain climate issues, I consider myself “green” in many ways, and I promote the idea of energy savings and alternate energy generation. Unlike many who just talk about it, I’ve put a 10KW solar array on my home, a second one on my new home this past summer of 2012. See photos below. Plus I championed a 125 KW solar array on one of our local schools when I was a local school board trustee. I’ve retrofitted my home with CFL’s and better insulation, as well as installed timer switches on many of our most commonly used lights. I also drive an electric car for my daily around town routine, but now mostly in the summer due to the battery technology not performing well in the winter. See my second electric car, which is an upgrade from the glorified golf cart in the link above, below. I encourage others to do the same when it comes to efficient use of energy and energy conservation. For example, I recently installed energy saving LED lighting in my home, reducing power consumption for my largest lighting use from 325watts to 60 watts. For story ideas or other items related to this website: leave a comment on the Tips and Ideas thread, available on the menu bar under the masthead. I no longer post my email address due to the volume of mail I get. wattsupwiththat.com