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To: Mark Mandel who wrote (243865)	2/3/2014 12:25:40 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 540785

I don't share your rant. It is up to us to elect politicians who will do the right thing for the right reason. We elect the morons so it really is our fault. I don't feel sorry for anyone in this country - even the poorest. Okay, the kids I do since it is not their fault - but not the adults that are too stupid or lazy to go forth and see what is available to them. Even the poorest though seem to have cell phones and TV's. They have enough to eat if they want it - food stamps or food banks or outreach for those in need to provide actually cooked meals. ...........How do you compare that to the poverty in Africa that is being addressed by Bates and Buffet? You don't, you can't.

To: Mark Mandel who wrote (243865)	2/3/2014 12:47:32 PM
From: bruwin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540785

Maybe watching the following interview that Charlie Rose recently had with Bill Gates may cast a different light on things .... assuming, of course, that you haven't seen it ..... charlierose.com Apart from what Gates had to say I, personally, regard Charlie Rose as a Master of his Craft.

To: Mark Mandel who wrote (243865)	2/3/2014 1:38:10 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 540785

Another poster; "Further, your comment "But the only way that can happen is if we educate everyone as best we can." What type of educational system did you have in mind? It seems we are all competing to have the best; yet, we are falling apart.>> Being the best is a silly idea. Eduction is not a best type of thing. It is a self actualization type of thing. The first order of education should be wisdom. Learning trades should only be started once a person has a solid liberal arts educational foundation that shows them the educational path they must follow their entire lives. I am glad to see some people understand all countries boundaries are contrived and we are all one people living on spaceship earth and need to function as such to survive. Re education: I feel that is one of the most misunderstood policies we have. And we are doing everything wrong is why it is falling apart. Sort of how we got everything wrong with the "war on drugs" because simple people were running our policies. All we need to do to step up education are three things: 1) First priority free pre school, with meals, for every child in the country 2.5 years and until kindergarten. The rich and academics all make sure their kids are in pre school. How can a five year old enter kindergarten and have to compete with kids who already have 2.5 years of schooling. They can't and it destroys their self confidence right out of the shute. The kids think they are dumb and it is all down hill from there. They are five and their egos are very fragile. And it is terrible for society having that division. Plus I think it is impossible to put more into education than a society will get out with increased productivity and reduced crime. Two: a massive increase in community colleges that are free to almost free and one can enter without tests or grades. Second change once a person matures. Three, money. Lots of it. The teachers are mostly just fine. The argument about their quality is a red herring the plutocrats use to avoid paying taxes. The great thing about random hiring i.e. letting each school district and even schools hire the teachers they want, is that they will hire teachers across the political spectrum: good, bad, and ugly, left and right. This prevents dogma. Dogma is the killer of education. My entire extended family is well educated and I have never heard anyone talk about how their education was crippled by bad teachers, only how good some of them were. I told the kids they would need to weather the bad ones as that is life, but I did watch out for them and if too bad pulled the kids out. Had Bush spent the 5 trillion he spent on those two wars, and tax cuts for the rich, on education as outlined above, we would be the pearl of the world today. Education is the transmission of civilization. Will Durant Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/w/will_durant.html#XQLL5fgeYS3d6KsW.99 Education is the transmission of civilization. Will Durant