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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Alex MG who wrote (141838)	2/8/2014 1:29:55 AM
From: SiouxPal	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

Indeed you are spot on.

To: Alex MG who wrote (141838)	2/8/2014 2:42:59 AM
From: bruwin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

Hmmm ... seems that the "Republicans" are the "bad guys" when it suits some arguments but the "good guys" when it suits others. Of course, the same applies to the views of some with regard to the "Democrats". Why not just look at what some individual did for the general good of a nation, be it the American or another, and judge that action accordingly without attempting to "label" that action or confine it to some area of the political spectrum .... Well, let's see now .... "MR. GORBACHOV, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL !!" ---------------------------------------- 1) From the "right" :- "Tear down this wall!" was the challenge issued by [Republican] United States President Ronald Reagan (of the right?) to Soviet Union leader Mikhail Gorbachev to destroy the Berlin Wall, in a speech at the Brandenburg Gate near the Berlin Wall on June 12, 1987, commemorating the 750th anniversary of Berlin. Reagan challenged Gorbachev, who was then the General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, to tear it down as an emblem of Gorbachev's desire to increase freedom in the Eastern Bloc through glasnost ("transparency") and perestroika ("restructuring"). Built in 1961, the Berlin Wall became known as a symbol of communist oppression. The Brandenburg Gate site was chosen to highlight the President's conviction that Western democracy offered the best hope to open the Berlin Wall. 2) And from the "left" :- In the 1963 "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech, U.S. [Democratic] President John F. Kennedy (of the left?) stated the support of the United States for democratic West Germany shortly after the Soviet-supported Communist state of East Germany erected the Berlin Wall as a barrier to prevent movement from East to West. ---------------------------------------- No doubt the above will be "countered" with Reagan's alleged involvement with the Iran-Contra affair. And what about the alleged extra-marital affair that J.F.Kennedy had with actress Marilyn Monroe ? Well, whatever they did or didn't do in that regard, in politics one must just be prepared to take the good with the bad. That's the unfortunate reality of politics. Not often that any prominent politician does absolutely nothing wrong ..... And if the truth be told, I'm not out to "pass" or "fail" anything, irrespective of the position you believe you hold to judge or fail me .... or anyone else for that matter ... The following timeless quote, expressed many hundreds of years ago, comes to mind .... "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"