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To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (57265)	2/13/2014 9:12:32 AM
From: Mevis	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 218514

Holee smokes GZ....u are filled with back door data. First the coppock curves and now k waves..... Awesome stuff as one never stops being a student.

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (57265)	2/13/2014 9:50:22 AM
From: Kirk ©	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218514

I believe the K-wave was discounted as rubbish long ago. As a mathematical model, your chart has changed what makes something most laymen call a wave (regular periods) into a variable.... There are ways for waves to vary period, such as changing depths of the ocean or light traveling through different mediums, but that is rather technical. The point I wanted to make from the chart.... the 1928-29 chart has the RHS higher than the LHS and still above where the current market is on a percentage basis. Back to the K-wave chart... I suspect your model is closer to the truth as it has an expanding component with time and so it probably fits the data better... which is PROBABLY why it works better as a predictor. With K-waves, we need to know how deep the ocean is in the future, which we do not know so the model falls apart unless someone invents a way to model the changes in period with world events.

To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (57265)	2/13/2014 10:06:23 AM
From: robert b furman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218514

That's an interesting interpretation of the K wave. He blames it on the internet over estimation - I'm not sure I buy into that. The internet has delivered all and everything we dreamed about in 1998-2000. The miracle of mobility quite possibly has greatly expanded the internets use beyond the original estimations of 2000. K wave studies use the collapse of the price of gold in trying to peg where we are in the cycle. I think the collapse we've seen last year gives us a clue. K wave studies say the collapse of gold occurs in the midway point of the winter. If this is the collapse of gold then we are on the downward slope of the K wave - maybe half way down. A very interest subject - thanks for posting it. Bob The other subject that may possibly be the main thesis for K wave cycles is the now nacent application of fracing for shale as it gets implemented on a global basis. Great strides in renewables as well as technology in efficiency (cars and led lights) coupled with cheap energy could well reverse the choke hold expensive energy has had on us since the 1973 7 day war.