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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (164932)	2/14/2014 9:38:04 AM
From: TideGlider	4 Recommendations Recommended By FJB Justin C locogringo lorne Respond to of 224750

Yes Kenneth, it is getting some legs from those of whom the program stripped them of their private insurance. There was no alternative. The government actually forced these people out of their private insurance and into The terrible programs they offer. I know a guy who was on physical therapy for his leg following an accident. Now there is no PT agency, unit etc within 80 miles that will accept him to continue treatment. The one he had attended closed their doors due to the new reimbursement rates. The program is toxic. Mr. Gruber is one of those responsible for this catastrophe. All those responsible for this POS program claim it is going well. So why does Obama keep postponing key parts of the bill? Because he knows it is hurting people and they feel the pain. He doesn't want to lose the Senate. I doubt his postponement will help. This will not end well at all. It doesn't affect me personally, but I hear so many talking about it. It is very stressful for many people.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (164932)	2/14/2014 11:40:53 AM
From: locogringo	2 Recommendations Recommended By FJB TideGlider Respond to of 224750

The enrollment is now “large enough for the market to function,... Maybe you should confirm that with the insurance carriers? Insurance Companies: “Obama Has Inflated Numbers” The insurance companies….the ones that actually implement Obamacare, aren’t necessarily giving the beleaguered healthcare plan a rousing endorsement. In fact, they say the administration is fudging it’s numbers. You mean to tell me that the guy that told us if we liked our healthcare plan and doctors we could keep them is not being 100% truthful when it comes to reporting the numbers? Knock me over with a feather! Insurance companies say that of the supposed 3.3 million people who have “signed up” for Obamacare, they estimate between 10% and 25% have made no payment what-so-ever. And the states exchanges have ranged from 25% to 51% non-payment. Most of the people that haven’t paid are….wait for it….young and healthy people! Of course, Health & Human Services is pointing to the number of people that have signed up as their number. That’s like Amazon telling you how many people put stuff in their shopping cart, but not how many people entered a credit card number. it’s totally meaningless. Now, lets throw some buyer’s remorse on the fire, shall we? 64% of Americans surveyed said that if Congress knew in 2009 what they know now, they wouldn’t have ever touched this law. 55% of those that have signed up for it say that they wish it had never been passed. Doesn’t sound like ringing endorsements from happy customers to me! Of course, the biggest problem here is the insurance industry. There are rumors out there that many of the players are getting set to pull the rug out of Obamacare altogether. The popular sentiment is, fiscal bailout to insurance companies be damned, it’s no way to do business. The hospitals and doctors included in the plans is terrible…in some cases, people having to drive 90 miles one way to see specialists, and in others, the list of doctors that were on the list were not top quality doctors, but doctors who had so many complaints lodged against them, that they as a group were lucky they were still able to practice medicine. Yet, Obama does nothing, but unilaterally change the law, hoping he can buy enough time to get out of office before the whole thing collapses. I mean, the guy HAS to understand that once the GOP controls both houses of congress and the White House, this “legacy” is toast, right? How smart do you have to be to understand that? The one thing that is interesting to me is the fact the GOP decided not to tie anything to the debt ceiling increase, such as a revocation of the bailout to insurance companies, which about 80% of the population would have supported. Instead, I think they are building a case for 2014 as well as 2016. If this thing continues down the same boulevard it’s currently on, Obamacare has a chance to entirely wipe out liberalism in America. I mean, how many Democrats actually think (not say, but believe) this is a really good thing for America? Damn few I would say. I can’t believe that anybody who’s running for re-election and not in a total blue district like San Francisco would even admit they knew a damn thing about Obamacare. Meanwhile, the clock ticks toward 2014. Looks to me like the Dems are the ones running scared…not the GOP!

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (164932)	2/15/2014 10:31:36 AM
From: chartseer	Respond to of 224750

Obamacare Enrollment Rate Slows Markedly In January On Wednesday, the Department of Health and Human Services announced that enrollment in the Obamacare private exchanges increased by 1,146,071 in January. In December, HHS reported 1,788,000 enrollees in the month of December. That suggests a drop-off of approximately 500,000, or 29 percent. (See the chart on page 5 here for a graphical representation). Yet this underestimates the true extent of enrollment dropoffs. The HHS reporting period for December was four weeks, beginning on 12/1 and ending on 12/28. The reporting period for January was five weeks, beginning on 12/29 and ending on 2/1. This suggests that in December, enrollments averaged 447,000 per week, compared to 229,000 in January, or a 49 percent drop-off in new enrollees.It is clear by now that the administration will not reach the original CBO estimate of 7 million enrollees by the deadline at the end of March. The real question is: how far short will they fall? If February’s enrollment rate matches that of January, the Administration will be able to claim 916,000 more enrollees in the current reporting period, for a grand total of about 4.2 million. That is 60% of the initial CBO estimate with a month to go before the end of open enrollment. On the other hand, it is hard to tell whether matching the pace set in January is reasonable for February. Notably, Kathleen Sebelius announced on January 24 that HHS had reached 800,000 enrollees already for the month, suggesting that the rate in the final two weeks of the month was lower than the rate in the first three weeks. One thing is for sure: the total enrollment of 3.3 million reported by HHS is an overestimate. At this point, industry insiders estimate that about 20% of people whom HHS claims are enrollees have not paid their premiums. Meanwhile, hard data from a handful of states suggests that the number of non-payees may be larger. If the insiders are right, then the real level of enrollment right now is just 2.6 million, which puts the administration at just 38 percent of the original target with two-thirds of the enrollment period now finished. weeklystandard.com