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To: Jurgis Bekepuris who wrote (2120)2/21/2014 8:06:06 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2722
 
Then you haven't talk to someone from Antioch or Pittsburgh or Oakland.
You are talking about 30+ mile commutes to Silly Valley. Once we start talking about 30+ mile commutes, there's no point talking at all. There's always a place that you can buy that will take you 2+ hours to commute from in traffic.

And yet people commute that far in SF and LA...........all the time. The point I was making is that even the SF metro area still has pockets of cheaper housing.........they are just not in areas where people find acceptable. However, many of those areas will be acceptable in 10 years.

Asia's cost advantage is slowly but surely disappearing.
That's not what I am talking about. I am talking about the cutting edge software and hardware. Sure, for now the risk is minor, since Chinese as Japanese before them have not produced worldwide breakthroughs in software. Neither have Indians. But I think Chinese still have a chance if we talk long term. Fortunately for USA, I don't think the chance is very big in coming 10-20 years.

Okay. We'll see. I think it will be fairly hard to dislodge the US but we can never afford to be complacent.



To: Jurgis Bekepuris who wrote (2120)2/22/2014 7:45:36 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2722
 
An interesting article I came across after we exchanged posts...........

Oakland: the city that told Google to get lost

Highly paid employees are pushing up rents near the tech giant's California headquarters, forcing locals out and destroying communities, say activists. Now Oakland's residents are fighting back – hard. But are they too late?

If pushing your enemy into the sea signifies success, then Google's decision to start ferrying workers to its campus by boat suggests the revolt against big technology companies is going well. Standing on the docks of Oakland, on the east side of San Francisco Bay, last week, you could watch the Googlers board the ferry, one by one, and swoosh through the chill, grey waters of the bay towards the company's Mountain View headquarters, 30 or so miles to the south.

Not exactly Dunkirk, but from afar you might have detected a whiff of evacuation, if not retreat. The ferry from Oakland – a week-long pilot programme – joined a similar catamaran service for Google workers in San Francisco launched last month. The search engine giant is not doing it for the bracing sea air. It is a response to blockades and assaults against buses that shuttle employees to work.

Many fear fresh attacks. A young software designer waiting for a Google bus on the corner of seventh and Adeline street in west Oakland flinches when I approach him. A few weeks earlier, activists here slashed tyres and hurled rocks through windows. Since then a police car has kept watch, but the Googler remains wary. "A reporter? Can I see some ID?" He scrutinises my press card and sighs. "We don't know what's going to happen. Anarchists are driving this."

An eclectic range of motivations are behind the wider backlash against technology companies in their Bay Area home turf as well as globally. Fair-tax campaigners complain that they abuse their clout in order to dodge payments and rewrite rules in their favour. Privacy advocates say they pillage customers' data and facilitate, willingly or not, government mass surveillance. Others accuse them of worsening inequality by enriching plutocratic backers.

Read more.....................

theguardian.com