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To: average joe who wrote (47145)	2/22/2014 6:11:37 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

I bet this guy has not played hockey for years!

To: average joe who wrote (47145)	2/22/2014 7:20:32 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

... The main thrust of Christian abolitionism emerged from the evangelical revival of the 18th century, which spawned dynamic Christians with clear-cut beliefs on morality and sin and approached the issue of slavery from this standpoint. In his Thoughts upon Slavery, John Wesley questioned the morality of slavery and those who engaged in it, while William Wilberforce, the evangelical Anglican MP who worked to end the slave trade in Parliament, believed that he had been called by God to end the 'immoral' slave trade. ..... *The Bible contains references to slavery* Aristotle's writings contain references to slavery and that wasn't unusual. But no Greco-Roman abolition movement ever formed.

To: average joe who wrote (47145)	2/23/2014 8:18:30 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Its almost humorous to look back at the early persectutions of the Quakers in England by these other "faithful" servants of God's *state religion, such profusion of confusion over such minutae as wearing hats. (was always about self rule, ownership & control of land, saving souls was always a veneer) It might be noted in the early 1600s, Quakers were some of the largest slave holders too, who could talk to Jesus better than the other, but really the threat was over control of land & sovereignity, economics, slavery was purely about economics, the need for labor. ***Later when everyone's gotten fatter & wealthy,secure in control of their properties, then the morality comes!! Why the Puritans persecuted Quakers** thehistoricpresent.wordpress.com Those Quakers were not meek and mild innocents who just wanted to talk. They were as righteous a group of zealots as most Puritans, and when they entered a Massachusetts town they tried to wreak maximum havoc: bursting into church services, yelling in the streets, banging pots and pans together, and even stripping off their clothes (to show their lack of attachment to worldly things). The Puritans reacted with vehement rejection, and submitted Quakers who would not heed the warnings to leave and never return to terrible punishments. Boring holes through their tongues was just one of these.

To: average joe who wrote (47145)	2/23/2014 8:25:41 AM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 69300

More human comedy "Why Were the Quakers Persecuted?" http://www.hallvworthington.com/Persecutions/whypersecutions.html Reminds me of the hippie movement in the 1960's without drugs, someone was feeling threatened ----> "England Love It or Leave It" !! ;o) The Quakers were persecuted because paying members of the Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Baptists, and Congregationalist Puritans were quitting and joining the Quakers. From the Word of the Lord within: "The Christians feared the early Quakers, just as the Jews feared Jesus;" because in a few short years, entire Christian churches were emptied of listeners to preachers repeating the words of the Bible, to become listeners of Christ in Quaker silent meetings. The ministers and priests then ran to the courts, suing any Quaker who stopped paying tithes to them. Because the Quakers could not swear in court, being forbidden by Jesus and James, they went to jail. When the Lord sent the Quaker men and women into their churches to preach the true hope and true faith, the ministers and priests ran to the magistrates and courts still more. The success of the early Quakers movement eventually emptied many churches throughout England, and the oppostion's violence intensified, with Parliament passing laws against any Quaker meeting, the penalty being fines, imprisonment, and finally banishment to the remote colonies in the Carribean.