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To: Brumar89 who wrote (47310)2/23/2014 8:18:33 PM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Think it could be bigger than Harry Potter or Gandhi?

After 10,000yrs of men at war, a good Jewish boy comes forth with peace, love,butterflies, loaves of bread & fish and

"why can't we all just be friends"

We can only suppose the everlasting life part came in because even a boy from the country could see the
Jewish state didn't look long for this earth, they definitely needed an other worldly loophole.

One cannot even imagine the devastation 70ad when war came, Josephus who tried three times to negotiate peace with the defenders reported 1,000,000 dead. The Roman general Titus, later to be emperor reportedly refused to accept a wreath of victory, saying that the victory did not come through his own efforts but that he had merely served as an instrument of God's wrath. (This "God's wrath" thing is really catching, wouldn't you say?)

Fall of Jerusalem, 70ad

Josephus had acted as a mediator for the Romans and, when negotiations failed, witnessed the siege and aftermath. He wrote: (no mention of Jesus or Christians yet)

Now as soon as the army had no more people to slay or to plunder, because there remained none to be the objects of their fury (for they would not have spared any, had there remained any other work to be done), [Titus] Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and Temple, but should leave as many of the towers standing as they were of the greatest eminence; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and Mariamne; and so much of the wall enclosed the city on the west side. This wall was spared, in order to afford a camp for such as were to lie in garrison [in the Upper City], as were the towers [the three forts] also spared, in order to demonstrate to posterity what kind of city it was, and how well fortified, which the Roman valor had subdued; but for all the rest of the wall [surrounding Jerusalem], it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground by those that dug it up to the foundation, that there was left nothing to make those that came thither believe it [Jerusalem] had ever been inhabited.

This was the end which Jerusalem came to by the madness of those that were for innovations; a city otherwise of great magnificence, and of mighty fame among all mankind. [2]
And truly, the very view itself was a melancholy thing; for those places which were adorned with trees and pleasant gardens, were now become desolate country every way, and its trees were all cut down. Nor could any foreigner that had formerly seen Judaea and the most beautiful suburbs of the city, and now saw it as a desert, but lament and mourn sadly at so great a change. For the war had laid all signs of beauty quite waste. Nor had anyone who had known the place before, had come on a sudden to it now, would he have known it again. But though he [a foreigner] were at the city itself, yet would he have inquired for it. [3]

Josephus claims that 1,100,000 people were killed during the siege, of which a majority were Jewish, and that 97,000 were captured and enslaved, including Simon bar Giora and John of Giscala. [4]