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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (245610)	2/26/2014 11:50:03 AM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541482

This is actually an old piece by Krugman from the middle of last year, but does it signify that Krugman now thinks he was wrong about the stimulus? Now he is saying those missing jobs are not from lack of stimulation but instead from new ways of doing business and that the jobs are gone forever. His idea of cutting the work week significantly has as much chance of being implemented as stimulating the economy with money from the tooth fairy. It likely won't come as a surprise that I think Krugman is completely off his rocker here. ........It isn't a lack of jobs, it's a lack of grand ideas. Build that highway system across America - whoops, that's been done - what we need now is rapid trains across America. We could also prepare for GW - you know build dikes around New York. Well, you get the idea. Orrrrrr, your favorite is to build solar panels on every house and barn across America. Think that wouldn't provide jobs? Shit we could employ half of America for a year just picking up garbage that lazy Americans throw out their car windows - okay, that one might not fly. ............This loss of jobs because of progress has been an argument that has been thrown out there forver. It's no different this time.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (245610)	2/26/2014 11:57:59 AM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541482

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (245610)	2/26/2014 12:09:20 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541482

That is interesting stuff, and how we should be thinking. Dig this, in Alaska State workers have always worked 7.5 hour days. Dems did that. Alaska was originally formed by liberals. Only ones who could read. Earnest Gruening who was a major designer of our constitution and a senator was one of only two senators to vote against the Tonkin Gulf vote. The other being Oregon's Wayne Morse. What drives me nuts is the mindless rhetoric on the right that talks about "creating jobs" but never says how and uses the rhetoric to keep minimum wages low. And they don't address time lines and no one ever calls them on it. There is a need for minimum wages and jobs NOW. Yet the plan the pubs have would take place in some future they never define. Present versus future. Drives me nuts.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (245610)	2/26/2014 1:09:06 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541482

As a former tournament chess player, I can tell you 30 years ago, the best chess players in the world felt they would always be better than any computer program or machine. Until the shocking realization that the machines were better than us, at this game. Today, the world champion realizes that the software is going to beat him, that it is better at playing chess than him. But then, chess is a very narrow specialty. Comprehending the world beyond the chessboard is just too much for any machine, certainly. What's a game that tests that? How about Jeopardy? We lose there too. Now the Jeopardy playing software is replacing diagnosing physicians. It's just the first entry into software replacing "brain" workers.