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To: Ron who wrote (245862)	2/28/2014 12:27:42 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542946

I say this to you out of respect. There is no one on SI smarter or more admired than you. But I would argue you have this one wrong. In fact I would argue you are the one using circular logic (ironically) because you are saying religion must be good because religious institutions are good. So you are using the conclusion to establish your premise. A (religious institutions are good because they are religious) is true because B is true (religious institutions produce well educated students). And B is true because A is true. But A is not true because B is true. To say it is, is circular reasoning. That is circular reasoning. My reasoning is not circular at all. I say religious schools are not good, because they embrace dogma. Certainty is the death nail of education. Inquiry is fatal to certainty. Will Durant Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/w/will_durant_2.html#z9mK8uRy7pZKDYtj.99 Religion is a dogma. How does any dogma help education? Those great religious universities you mention are great "despite their dogma", not because of it. And because the scientist's insist they keep dogma out of their classrooms. Still many scientist's won't teach at religious institutions. What could any dogma possible bring to education? Nothing I can think of. Yes, the Jesuits are the intellectual arm of the catholic church and every one I ever met was very smart. Several of my best friends over the years have been Jesuits and my best friend right now was a Jesuit. And they are among the smartest of all my friends. One is an ER doc, one was a legislator and civilized our prison system and helped the very poor in Anchorage (established Beans café for the homeless to get food) and my present friend was a Jesuit and is the nicest guy in my town. They all left the church though. I asked my present friend Paul, just a few days ago, what exactly do Jesuits study? The reason for my question is what is there to study in a myth? It makes no sense to me. It is like studying Santa Clause or the Easter bunny. He said he thought they were mostly atheists. So what is the point? <<Now you're using circular logic. You'd probably have done better if you had attended Marquette. Those Jesuits are a smart bunch :) Chauvinism takes many forms, doesn't it. >>