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To: bentway who wrote (245885)2/28/2014 2:17:58 PM
From: T L Comiskey  Respond to of 542970
 
re......What if he loses his faith?

A side note on......Cardinal...Francis Spellman.......

America's...Holy Mr Big in the..60's
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Once to enquiring journalists waiting for him in Saigon on one of his many trips to the country, his reply about whether US military presence was justified was direct and simple: "My country, may it always be right, right or wrong, my country." Why, the man even displayed a picture of himself standing before a fighter plane on his 1965 Christmas cards. Later he would even bless air bombers with sprinkled "holy water" before they flew towards the Ho Chi Minah trail on a Pentagon sortie.








Later Spellman would happily gather on his frequent overseas trips, assorted intelligence, for the CIA and the State Department. In return he would be invited by LBJ for military briefings and a five-star lunch at the Pentagon. The President was always forward in asking his pet Cardinal for his opinions.





Once at an invited prayer breakfast that included amongst others Billy Graham and the cardinal, LBJ asked both of them what he should do next in the Vietnam theatre? Graham was uncomfortably silent.



"Bomb them," Spellman unhesitatingly ordered. "Just bomb them."
And the President did!



To: bentway who wrote (245885)2/28/2014 3:54:23 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542970
 
I met a guy like that. He wondered what kept people like me from killing other people. I thought that was a really odd question- and then I quickly thought how glad I was he was 1. religious and 2. far away from me.

I mean really. Religion is all that keeps some people from running amuck? What kind of people ARE these?



To: bentway who wrote (245885)2/28/2014 3:56:09 PM
From: Metacomet  Respond to of 542970
 
Ya really want to confuse them use my argument

I'm a pretty strong Christian, in that I accept, and try and follow the teachings attributed to the entity commonly known as Jesus Christ.

I can't accept any of the supernatural artifacts that are associated with the normal practice of the religious beliefs around him though

I profess to to be a Christian atheist...