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To: koan who wrote (47705)2/28/2014 6:47:40 PM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
you said you didn't vote for Romney because he would start WW 3 and look whos' gonna start it, your boy.

Palin in 2008 said Putin would invade Ukraine and you lefties laughed at her



To: koan who wrote (47705)2/28/2014 7:28:05 PM
From: average joe  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." John Kenneth Galbraith

"The secret dread of modern intellectuals, liberals and conservatives alike, the unadmitted terror at the root of their anxiety, which all of their current irrationalities are intended to stave off and to disguise, is the unstated knowledge that Soviet Russia is the full, actual, literal, consistent embodiment of the morality of altruism, that Stalin did not corrupt a noble ideal, that this is the only way altruism has to be or can ever be practiced. If service and self-sacrifice are a moral ideal, and if the “selfishness” of human nature prevents men from leaping into sacrificial furnaces, there is no reason—no reason that a mystic moralist could name—why a dictator should not push them in at the point of bayonets—for their own good, or the good of humanity, or the good of posterity, or the good of the latest bureaucrat’s latest five-year plan. There is no reason that they can name to oppose any atrocity. The value of a man’s life? His right to exist? His right to pursue his own happiness? These are concepts that belong to individualism and
capitalism—to the antithesis of the altruist morality."
Ayn Rand




To: koan who wrote (47705)3/1/2014 9:10:50 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
"Among the things offensive to followers of Ayn Rand is the concept of one volunteering their time in the service of others."

That is utter nonsense. Objectivism is all about honoring your values. When Hank Readon had a major furnace blast did everybody just stand around??? What objectivists oppose is "mandatory" volunteering which is just plain stupid--like believing in Genesis and Science at the same time: STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!

Volunteerism should be done selfishly in pursuit of your own values--the things you love and cherish and support. People who pursue "unchosen" obligations are like poker players who fold their winning hands so that the losers at the table can get even.