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To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (104716)3/2/2014 9:36:03 AM
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Actually, it is scarcity, not weight that adds to the value..

...and the US has neither the will nor the mandate to interfere in soviet sphere politics

We have expended enough of our capital of blood and treasure interceding everywhere to impose our views or support "allies"

It is a European problem

Annexation of the Ukraine by Russia will not make them a greater threat to the US...which needs to be the yardstick by which we determine our involvement.

...and will be a source of continuing misery to Putin and company

Fortress USA has not been in a war of national necessity since WWII...but we have been in wars for 70 years

Only time most of the world has any respect for us is when they have their tit in a wringer and need us to bail them out

Until I can see where US interests are seriously at risk here, I am not interested in the US getting into this much beyond steps such as these:

Events in eastern Europe took a dramatic turn on Saturday as the Russian parliament cleared the way for President Vladimir Putin to use force in eastern Ukraine. Already forces allied with Moscow effectively control the Crimean peninsula, with armed gunmen patrolling its airports, parliament, and the newly installed local prime minister calling for a referendum on Crimean independence this March.Speaking yesterday, President Barack Obama warned Russia “there will be a cost” for intervening militarily within Ukraine. U.S. military options are limited, but that doesn’t mean that America is unable to respond, however. Here are 5 options, among many, that the Obama administration can consider:

1. Suspend Russia’s membership in the G-8

Russia joining the Group of 7 in 1998, despite being the weakest of the group’s economies at the time, was considered a huge boost to the prestige a country still recovering after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Russia is also due to host the next meeting of the G-8 in Sochi, the site of the recently concluded Olympics, this June. Rather than the U.S. simply boycotting the meeting, the Obama administration could lead the charge along with the other members to suspend Russia’s membership in the group.

2. Place travel bans on Putin and his family

While multilateral travel bans are unlikely to come from the United Nations, thanks to Russia’s veto power on the Security Council, the U.S. can still enact unilateral travel sanctions on Putin and his family. While Putin would still be able to travel to New York for United Nations meetings, preventing the Russian president from entering U.S. territory, and marshaling European countries and other allies to do the same, would send a strong message to Putin that he is persona non-grata in the international community.

3. Enact trade sanctions against Russia

As recently as December, Russia was looking to boost trade with the United States — which already stands at about $40 billion annually — though remaining just shy of a free trade deal. Both Russia and the United States are members of the World Trade Organization, which brings with it certain obligations when it comes to tarrifs and trade embargoes. But insofar as those obligations allow, the U.S. can use reduced trade with Russia to show its displeasure.

4. Suspension of NATO cooperation and participation

After the collapse of the USSR, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization welcomed in several of the formerly Soviet states, including Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. Russia has long seen this expansion as a threat, which is part of the reason Ukraine is not a NATO member state. To help assauge those fears, NATO began outreach to Russia in the late 1990s, including setting up a NATO-Russia Council to frequently meet and exchange concerns. In light of Putin’s move on Ukraine, the U.S. should move to have those meetings suspended and cooperation between NATO and Russia halted.

5. Accelerate missile defense programs in Russia’s near abroad

One of Russia’s top concerns when it comes to U.S. policy has been the instillation of a missile defense network in Eastern Europe. Washington has always insisted the network in Poland and the Czech Republic are to protect Europe from the threat of missiles from Iran, though Moscow has long been skeptical. The Obama administration has dialed back some of the program in the hopes of reducing Russian fears and enabling cooperation in other areas, for example on Iran’s nuclear program. Many of those choices could now be reversed with consideration to other American security interests.

thinkprogress.org




To: Haim R. Branisteanu who wrote (104716)3/2/2014 5:34:46 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219995
 
re coins, i quote self per recent e-mail

On 2/28/2014 10:50 PM, J wrote:

i remember some members of this thread collectively purchased hundreds and hundreds of panda gold 1-oz coins in the course of late 2008 / early 2009


... and currently pandaamerica indicates the transaction value of


2007 1-oz coin (102,000 minted goldbarsworldwide.com ) @ 1,888 pandaamerica.com


2008 1-oz coin (77,004 minted) @ ????
2009 1-oz coin (92,496 minted) @ ????
2008 / 2009 are not available via rarepandastore.com am doubtful on pandaamerica having same as they do not quote a price


2010 1-oz (101,000 minted) @ 1,570 pandaamerica.com


so we can take a mid-point value that be 1,729 or 26% above current panda, or 31% above spot


some kind of wonderful


and i note ... a tiny 1/10 oz panda platinum coin circa 1994 @ 1,233, prospectively putting a pt 1-oz @ ??,???


no, was wrong, a circa 1989 1-oz pt coin can be be had for 8,888 ebay.com


some kind of fantastic


investing seems easy ... just buy panda coins


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